After a couple of months in federal custody, Jon Schaffer has expressed his willingness to talk about the Oath Keepers activities on January 6 (and beyond) but only if the government will put him into the Witness Protection Program. Joyce asks will his cooperation be enough to shake the majority of Americans out of their civic lethargy?

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