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  1. Gary Robbins Reagan

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

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    • August 18, 2019, at 3:17 PM PST
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  2. namlliT noD Member

    1:25: “Trump is violating norms” is a democrat talking point.

    2:10: “Trump is violating norms”. Best to repeat it.

    2:30: The Fox polling subsidiary is not the same as Sean Hannity. And the Fox News Poll called 2016 wildly wrong.

    3:25: Which democrat candidate are you talking about that is concerned about the national debt?

    3:30: “We lost one this week”. You lost your Hickenlooper?

    4:05: “Science fiction cartoons”? What; Space Ghost? Colonel Bleep?

    4:10: “The magic bullet where all of the sudden the oceans protect us from a world that is not always friendly.” What are you talking about?

    4:20: “As I said, the Fox News poll taken after El Paso, where a new poll, today, in the Wall St. Journal, says that 68% of registered voters want stronger gun controls and gun legislation, and that less than half of those polls approve of the president’s response to El Paso and Dayton, in terms of his forceful advocacy for the types of laws and regulations that would, in fact, reduce some of these incidents and his use of language, which some people believe endorses or strengthens, or incentivizes, white supremacy.” That doesn’t make a particle of sense.

    And that’s just the first five minutes.

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    • August 19, 2019, at 1:57 AM PST
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  3. Taras Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

     I was just listening to Byron York interview the founder of Real Clear Politics. 

     He explained that polls of the Democratic contenders are on the front page, while Republican polls have to be searched for, because aside from a few eccentrics nobody cares about Republican “challengers” to Donald Trump. 

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    • August 19, 2019, at 2:55 AM PST
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  4. Kozak Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

    LOL. We know you would vote against him in the general election.

     

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    • August 19, 2019, at 5:04 AM PST
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  5. Clare Day Member

    Is it time for a GOP primary challenger to Trump at all?

    No, not a chance. He’s the only one who can do what he’s doing to leftist pieties and for our political bedrock. Signal not noise; we’ve got Trump, it’s up to us to keep and strengthen him in 2020.

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    • August 19, 2019, at 3:52 PM PST
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  6. namlliT noD Member

    Clare Day (View Comment):
    Is it time for a GOP primary challenger to Trump at all?

    Has an elected incumbent president ever lost a primary to a challenger? Has that ever happened? I don’t think so.

    Such a thing would be a total “violation of norms”.

    Which, weirdly enough, is literally Ms. Cordi’s initial complaint.

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    • August 19, 2019, at 4:09 PM PST
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  7. JoyceCordi Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

    @Gary Robbins — So would I !!! We need the RIGHT candidate in New Hampshire —

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    • August 20, 2019, at 11:12 AM PST
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  8. JoyceCordi Coolidge

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    1:25: “Trump is violating norms” is a democrat talking point.

    2:10: “Trump is violating norms”. Best to repeat it.

    2:30: The Fox polling subsidiary is not the same as Sean Hannity. And the Fox News Poll called 2016 wildly wrong.

    3:25: Which democrat candidate are you talking about that is concerned about the national debt?

    3:30: “We lost one this week”. You lost your Hickenlooper?

    4:05: “Science fiction cartoons”? What; Space Ghost? Colonel Bleep?

    4:10: “The magic bullet where all of the sudden the oceans protect us from a world that is not always friendly.” What are you talking about?

    4:20: “As I said, the Fox News poll taken after El Paso, where a new poll, today, in the Wall St. Journal, says that 68% of registered voters want stronger gun controls and gun legislation, and that less than half of those polls approve of the president’s response to El Paso and Dayton, in terms of his forceful advocacy for the types of laws and regulations that would, in fact, reduce some of these incidents and his use of language, which some people believe endorses or strengthens, or incentivizes, white supremacy.” That doesn’t make a particle of sense.

    And that’s just the first five minutes.

     

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    • August 20, 2019, at 11:13 AM PST
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  9. JoyceCordi Coolidge

    @namlliT noD

    I didn’t talk about the magic dome until about 30 minutes into the podcast — so, while you don’t agree with me, at least you listened! Thanks

    The Dome is something I have seen in science fiction or futuristic movies — it covers the whole city etc, with flying machines flying around inside it — i.e. it’s a metaphor.

    Historically, i.e. before jet planes, etc. the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans did act as protective barriers to large scale invasion of the USA. That was true from the Revolutionary War — when the world’s strongest army was defeated by a combination of unorthodox battlefield tactics and a LONG, LONG supply chain.

    That is, also, true of the War of 1812 — when the British sacked Washington, DC but could not maintain their momentum.

    In the 21st century that barrier is reduced by faster aviation — and advanced missle technology —

    But all that misses the point I was making — the Democratic candidates are so busy falling over themselves offering freebies that they have ignored the nation’s two biggest issues: succeeding in a complicated world (climate change is NOT an American issue — it is a global one) — cyber warfare knows no national boundaries, and so forth. 

    It’s as though they think there is some magically protection for the American people — a metaphoric dome of protection.

    Last, the candidate who mentioned the threat presented by uncontrolled deficits and mounting national debt was not Hickenlooper but his follow Coloradan — Michael Bennet.

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    • August 20, 2019, at 11:25 AM PST
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  10. JoyceCordi Coolidge

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Clare Day (View Comment):
    Is it time for a GOP primary challenger to Trump at all?

    Has an elected incumbent president ever lost a primary to a challenger? Has that ever happened? I don’t think so.

    Such a thing would be a total “violation of norms”.

    Which, weirdly enough, is literally Ms. Cordi’s initial complaint.

    @Clare Day — Johnson to Humphrey in 1968 resulting in Johnson’s withdrawal from the presidential race.

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    • August 20, 2019, at 11:27 AM PST
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  11. JoyceCordi Coolidge

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

    LOL. We know you would vote against him in the general election.

    @Kozak Trump drove me from GOP to No Party Preference (the biggest political party in California) — I will vote against Trump in the General Election but I don’t know who / what I will vote for — stay tuned!

     

     

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    • August 20, 2019, at 11:30 AM PST
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  12. namlliT noD Member

    JoyceCordi (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Clare Day (View Comment):
    Is it time for a GOP primary challenger to Trump at all?

    Has an elected incumbent president ever lost a primary to a challenger? Has that ever happened? I don’t think so.

    Such a thing would be a total “violation of norms”.

    Which, weirdly enough, is literally Ms. Cordi’s initial complaint.

    @Clare Day — Johnson to Humphrey in 1968 resulting in Johnson’s withdrawal from the presidential race.

    Mmmm, not exactly.

    While Johnson did start running for reelection, his health was deteriorating badly, he probably would not lived to the end of the term, his base was very angry about the Vietnam War, and he’d already been in office more than a term. And so he bowed out very early in the process.

    And Robert Kennedy was assassinated soon after. And the big riots at the Democratic Convention.

    And Richard Nixon won in a landslide, even though the voting age had just been reduced to 18.

    The Democratic Party was in shambles in 1968. Similar to today.

    And quite similar to the Republican Party being in shambles in 2008.

    ‘Makes you appreciate the two party system more; one party can fall apart and it still works.

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    • August 21, 2019, at 8:19 AM PST
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  13. namlliT noD Member

    JoyceCordi (View Comment):
    Last, the candidate who mentioned the threat presented by uncontrolled deficits and mounting national debt was not Hickenlooper but his follow Coloradan — Michael Bennet.

    Hmm, I’d be skeptical.

    After all, when running for office in 2008, Obama famously claimed he was going to limit spending, going through every bill, “line by line” to eliminate waste. And of course, days after the inauguration, he ran created the bogus stimulus package spending almost $1 trillion.

    Since Bennett is currently a senator , what has he done to reduce spending? He did introduce a bill to remove the debt ceiling, but I don’t see how that helps.

     

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    • August 21, 2019, at 8:29 AM PST
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  14. Kozak Member

    JoyceCordi (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

    @Gary Robbins — So would I !!! We need the RIGHT candidate in New Hampshire —

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    • August 21, 2019, at 6:56 PM PST
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  15. JoyceCordi Coolidge

    JoyceCordi (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    YES! I would vote against Trump in the Republican Primary.

    @Gary Robbins — So would I !!! We need the RIGHT candidate in New Hampshire —

    @Gary Robbins — 50% of Republicans agree that Trump needs a primary challenger. I can forgive Mark Sanford his “appalachian trail” misadventure (his ex-wife has). I agree with him on the urgency of the debt and deficits and crazy MTM economic theory — but he is charisma challenged — thus earned media challenged.

    But then there is “be careful what you wish for off”. Off the top of my head three primary challenges in modern history changed the electoral outcome —

    McCarthy’s strong showing in New Hampshire — convinced Johnson to withdraw his re-election bid — opening the door for Robert Kennedy. Do you think Nixon would have been President if Bobby Kennedy had survived the LA shooting?

    (Not surprisingly, Pence was in South Carolina yesterday — making sure he has a foot in the door if for some reason Trump decided not to run for re-election — circa Humphrey). His candidacy would begin and end the same way as Humphrey’s.

    Then we have Reagan challenging Ford in 1976 — opening the door for Jimmy Carter — the anti Nixon. 

    Isn’t that Biden’s strongest calling card in the current Democratic primary race?

    And in 1992 Buchanan (sadly) challenged Bush ’41 doing well enough to invite a third party candidacy by Ross Perot that allowed Bill Clinton to win election with about 40% of the total vote in Nov. 1992.

    What is different now than in 1992 — 42% of the electorate are Independents. That is more than twice the percentage in 1992 with a much larger and more diverse electorate.

    If two or three Republican candidates can take a third or more of the New Hampshire vote — we are in a new ball game. BUT THEN — who will step forward?

    Who has the VISION, the political gut level instincts, and the depth to shred Elizabeth and her plans?

     

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    • August 27, 2019, at 1:27 PM PST
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  16. JoyceCordi Coolidge

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    JoyceCordi (View Comment):
    Last, the candidate who mentioned the threat presented by uncontrolled deficits and mounting national debt was not Hickenlooper but his follow Coloradan — Michael Bennet.

    Hmm, I’d be skeptical.

    After all, when running for office in 2008, Obama famously claimed he was going to limit spending, going through every bill, “line by line” to eliminate waste. And of course, days after the inauguration, he ran created the bogus stimulus package spending almost $1 trillion.

    Since Bennett is currently a senator , what has he done to reduce spending? He did introduce a bill to remove the debt ceiling, but I don’t see how that helps.

     

    @namllit no D

    Bennet raising the issue of debt is a courageous act in this Democratic field — where the contest is about who will “give you the most free stuff”.

    First he is right (canary in the coal mine correct). 

    Who is the largest owner of US foreign debt? China!

    Unless you want the Yuan to be the global reserve currency in 2030 (or sooner) — we had better dust off, update and pass Simpson Bowles rather sensible 2010 plan for debt reduction, entitlement reform etc..

    Second, he is looking for a way to distinguish himself in Iowa. We “coastal elites” sometimes forget that agriculture is BIG BUSINESS — and those Iowa farmers understand the existential threat of debt in a much more immediate and visceral way than most. That could mean votes. 

    Bennet is one of those candidates (like Bullock) who are going to stick around even if they are not on the televised debate stage because they know how to “live off the land”. They, also, can do math. In a field that could still be as large as 10 in January — voters might sort the candidates differently than the pollsters.

     

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    • August 27, 2019, at 1:40 PM PST
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  17. namlliT noD Member

    JoyceCordi (View Comment):
    Bennet raising the issue of debt is a courageous act in this Democratic field — where the contest is about who will “give you the most free stuff”.

    Democrats are happy to talk about the debt. In fact, debt reduction was a democrat party talking point in 2012. It gives them an opportunity to blame it on Republicans, and use it as an excuse to raise taxes.

    And claiming to address the debt does not preclude providing free stuff.

    The only real way to address the national debt is to reduce spending. Has Michael Bennet actually done that in a demonstrable way? Otherwise he’s not credible.

    The underlying reason we have a debt problem is that congress, which controls spending, has no incentive to cut spending, and a ton of incentive to spend as much as possible.

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    • August 27, 2019, at 2:21 PM PST
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