How does collective guilt differ from the concept of Original Sin? Is there really such a thing as an “Original Sin of slavery?” How far ought collective guilt, or even collective exoneration, to extend? Dave sat down with DC McAllister to hash out these topics and a great deal more in a free-wheeling conversation that we believe you’ll find quite compelling. As Dave wrote, “Any conversation that travels the spectrum from corporate guilt to Hondas and coffee-flavored rum is going to spark some interest.”

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  1. Ansonia Member
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    Fantastic Podcast ! I’ll do the I tunes thing before the day is over.

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  2. DocJay Inactive
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    Great podcast y’all.

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  3. Arahant Member
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    I shall be using that séance joke in the future. Thank you.

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  4. Dave Carter Podcaster
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    Ansonia (View Comment):
    Fantastic Podcast ! I’ll do the I tunes thing before the day is over.

    Thank you kindly!

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  5. Dave Carter Podcaster
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    DocJay (View Comment):
    Great podcast y’all.

    Thanks Doc! DC was wonderful as always.

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  6. Dave Carter Podcaster
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    Arahant (View Comment):
    I shall be using that séance joke in the future. Thank you.

    Then there’s the time we were in the middle of a seance, and he walked into the hall closet, closed the door and said, “4th Floor please.”

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  7. DocJay Inactive
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    DocJay (View Comment):
    Great podcast y’all.

    Thanks Doc! DC was wonderful as always.

    You’re pretty good brain candy yourself you old coon ass.  Geaux Tigers!

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  8. Dave Carter Podcaster
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    DocJay (View Comment):

    Dave Carter (View Comment):

    DocJay (View Comment):
    Great podcast y’all.

    Thanks Doc! DC was wonderful as always.

    You’re pretty good brain candy yourself you old coon ass. Geaux Tigers!

    Awww shucks…..I bet you say that to all the old coonasses.

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  9. DocJay Inactive
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    DC’s discussion and playbook to deal with collective racist allegations  should be screamed to the GOP because that’s the angle, the only angle the dems are going to use in 2018 other than Trump.

    The sad part may be that the GOP establishment joins in on the racist allegations in the primaries.  A move that will backfire immensely if used.

    The GOP should act as DC advises.

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  10. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    Having been through a large number of “Courageous Conversations” while teaching in Seattle Public Schools, I have slightly different view about why people on the left choose to play their games. To me, it is all about personal power. Thinking back to the first Human Relations Task Force that assaulted my building in 1971, and to the way individuals on the staff responded to the sudden awareness that they could claim victimhood, and how they used that new status to browbeat their colleagues, I believe it was all about personal power and had little to do with bringing about “Social Justice.” These people, like the Task Force moderators, were enjoying the sudden feeling of celebrity and power over their equals.  The moderators themselves struck me as essentially mediocre intellects who were somehow given special knowledge and the ability to use that knowledge to subjugate and intimidate people of far great intellect and academic achievement than they themselves possessed. I will take the old adage that “all politics is local” and reduce it further to all politics is about individual power. As I grow old I more and more disbelieve in true altruism. Somewhere buried in every individual who does “what is right!” exists an ego striving for recognition and power.

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  11. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Great Podcast!

    There are 2 areas where you could expand the ideas of collective guilt:

    1. The exception. Collective guilt does not apply to Islamic extremists. The mosque and community bears no responsibility when one of its members goes off and kills (or attempts as happened Edmonton, Alberta recently – a truck attack similar to the NYC events – but for providence nobody got killed)
    2. Because everything is collective they hate success and it becomes the driver of their class warfare. Because the actions of the individual dont matter, those who are self made successes must have cheated, stolen from the unsuccessful. This directly drives there policy processes into punishing the rich with confiscation, and supporting the poor. Not just supporting poverty, but subsidizing failure, enabling drug addiction, irresponsible sex, and family destruction. They’re the ultimate enabler of bad behavior.
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  12. Taras Coolidge
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    If whites are supposed to feel guilty about things that happened before they were born, why shouldn’t blacks feel guilty about the black-on-white crime going on right now?

    Twice as many whites fought in the Union Army as in the Confederate Army.  Should blacks pay reparations to their descendants?

    Many, perhaps most, African Americans are descended from slaveowners.  Should they pay reparations to other blacks?  Or to themselves?

    Progressives are utilitarians.  For them, a statement is either useful to the cause, or harmful to the cause.  Its truth or falsity is largely irrelevant.  In other words, progressives find that accusations of racism, hurled in all directions, work for them.

     

     

     

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