Francis Fukuyama is one of the most influential political thinkers of our times. He teaches at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, at Stanford. He is chairman of the editorial board at American Purpose. With Jay, he talks about his upbringing and education. His paternal grandfather came to America from Japan in 1905. His father was born and raised in Los Angeles. The family was interned, in Colorado, during World War II. In college and graduate school, Fukuyama studied with an array of well-known scholars: Bloom, Deman, Derrida, Barthes, Huntington, Mansfield, et al. Jay further talks with Fukuyama about liberalism, conservatism, America’s two-party system, Ukraine, and more. At the end, Fukuyama pays tribute to Alexis de Tocqueville, that great chronicler of America and explicator of democracy. 

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