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Misha is joined by Alex Joske, author of Spies and Lies, to talk about China’s covert foreign interference and influence campaigns, run by the Ministry of State Security.
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Great interview. I think that the use by the CCP of Chinese overseas is a real problem – both from the spying situation but also how to discern whether an overseas is (1) willingly helping; (2) being coerced because of family still in China, etc; (3) some combination.
Excellent guest and interview Misha.