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  1. Profile photo of Basil G Inactive

    Best podcast of the week!

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    • October 28, 2016 at 5:01 pm
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  2. Profile photo of Gaius Member

    It saddens me to hear VDH take this particular line. Apparently now we’re to evaluate arguments based on the geographic location and lifestyle of the people making them rather than on the merits. Does he realize this is exactly his own complaint against the elites? Meeting contempt with contempt will only lead to further division and irrationality.

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    • October 28, 2016 at 7:44 pm
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  3. Profile photo of Terry Mott Member

    Gaius:It saddens me to hear VDH take this particular line. Apparently now we’re to evaluate arguments based on the geographic location and lifestyle of the people making them rather than on the merits. Does he realize this is exactly his own complaint against the elites? Meeting contempt with contempt will only lead to further division and irrationality.

    I didn’t take it that way at all. But then, I don’t live in those areas, so his comments couldn’t be taken personally.

    I understood him to bring up the geographic location as an explanation for the disconnect between the GOPe and the rank-and-file of the party.

    Standard disclaimer: I can’t stand Trump. But my stomach turned watching people like Mona Charen, Kevin Williamson, and John Podhoretz savage the Trump supporters with absolutely no attempt to understand why the normal, beltway-GOP-approved candidates were deemed unacceptable. The only thought given was that “those” people were obviously idiots and bigots who don’t understand what’s best for them — the same attitude we get from the Left, day in and day out.

    I do disagree with VDH in one thing: I haven’t caught Jonah Goldberg taking such an attitude in his writing. Maybe he has said as much in person to Dr. Hanson, but I can’t speak to that. But other than that caveat, I agreed with everything he said.

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    • October 28, 2016 at 8:23 pm
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  4. Profile photo of Mark Darris Coolidge

    As always, VDH is dead, nuts on. He gets the essence of what is happening in this election and what is, at its core, wrong with the American governmental/political system. Thanks VDH.

    • #4
    • October 29, 2016 at 12:55 am
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  5. Profile photo of RufusRJones Member

    1 + 2 = the regressive economic and sociological conditions that make people vote for Trump.

    The only guys that know the way out of this mess are David Stockman, Angelo Coevilla, and VDH.

    We are doing every single thing wrong in the face of massive wage deflation from technology and globalized labor. Part of the reason is, the government can’t tax deflation and the financial system is based on constant inflation. The Ruling Class is driving us off a cliff.

    The Western bond markets will collapse. Five years, tops. It won’t be as acute as 2008, but it will otherwise be much worse.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 2:12 am
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  6. Profile photo of mezzrow Member

    Thank God for Victor Davis Hanson. If more individuals could speak the plain and no-so-plain truth with his clarity and courage, this would be a better world. We see the same future, and it is not pretty.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 3:43 am
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  7. Profile photo of Basil G Inactive

    Terry Mott:Standard disclaimer: I can’t stand Trump. But my stomach turned watching people like Mona Charen, Kevin Williamson, and John Podhoretz savage the Trump supporters with absolutely no attempt to understand why the normal, beltway-GOP-approved candidates were deemed unacceptable. The only thought given was that “those” people were obviously idiots and bigots who don’t understand what’s best for them — the same attitude we get from the Left, day in and day out.

    Agree fully. As a (former) hard core consumer of Jonah’s books, columns and speaking, he started off pretty rough but smoothed out some edges. I would just add James Lileks to the list above. He seems not to have a dial that goes below 11 on his enmity fire hose. Boy was I a fan – even drove to UCLA to hear/see him at Ricochet event; can’t bear listening to a podcast anymore.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 8:40 am
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  8. Profile photo of Freesmith Member

    Professor Hanson, please continue to work on and then publish that chart of the interlocking personal relationships, especially of Conservatism, Inc.

    Strictly for informational purposes of course.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 8:45 am
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  9. Profile photo of Israel P. Member

    Wonderful, as always. But did he really say “John Podhorowitz?”

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    • October 29, 2016 at 10:21 am
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  10. Profile photo of Doctor Robert Member

    This is the best analysis that I have seen of our current mess. Bravo VDH, and thank you.

    VDH makes the case for why the study of history, of Old Dead White Males, is always relevant.

    Now I will go off and read some Thucydides.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 10:45 am
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  11. Profile photo of Doctor Robert Member

    Terry Mott: But my stomach turned watching people like Mona Charen, Kevin Williamson, and John Podhoretz savage the Trump supporters with absolutely no attempt to understand why the normal, beltway-GOP-approved candidates were deemed unacceptable. The only thought given was that “those” people were obviously idiots and bigots who don’t understand what’s best for them — the same attitude we get from the Left, day in and day out.

    This is so, so true. Mona and Jay, I no longer can stand reading or listening to their stuff. So holier-than-thou. This saddens me, I was enjoying Mona’s progress on ‘cello.

    Williamson, he saddens me too. He often had an understanding of why we plebeians are unhappy with the Republican Gentry. Pity he can’t see past his own anti-Trumpism.

    Podhoretz, you get the vibes that he would rather have a total societal collapse while remaining pure, than to sully his upper-west-side fingers by pulling a Trump level.

    Eff’emall, I say. Eff’emall.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 10:49 am
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  12. Profile photo of Rick Harlan Coolidge

    I so,so want to be a fan of “The Classicist.” I used to spend my lunch hours with Pharr’s Homeric Greek before the burdens of adulthood caught up to me.

    But the last two weeks I’ve just heard him making backbiting scurrilous attacks on his colleagues. And for what reason? That people who get paid to stake out strong, opinionated positions might be biased? If a writer consistently opposing gun control has a spouse working for the NRA, is that a conflict of interest, or putting his money where his mouth is?

    More to the point, Professor Hansen attacked David French for writing columns while contemplating a priest candidacy. Since he would have been nearly self-immolating for the same causes he espoused in print. How is that more a conflict of interest than writing two different columns in the same week?

    And as for the criticism he’s endured as a Trump supporter, I’d be embarrassed to compare that to what Mr. French has taken. I’m sorry to say that there are Never Trumpers who engage in unprovoked personal attacks, but all of them put together don’t compare to a Mike Cernovich or Ricky Vaughn.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 12:08 pm
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  13. Profile photo of Goldwaterwoman Thatcher

    One of a very few prominent columnists in this country who actually speaks the unvarnished truth. VDH for President!

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    • October 29, 2016 at 1:29 pm
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  14. Profile photo of Petty Boozswha Member

    Can Dr. Hanson conceive of any demagogue that would be so far outside the tent that his capture of the Republican nomination would be illegitimate? What more, by that I mean what conceivable act or statement, would Trump have to do or make to cause him to withdrawal his support? I only ask this because Dr. Hanson is one the the people in public life I admire most.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 2:48 pm
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  15. Profile photo of Freesmith Member

    Petty Boozswha:Can Dr. Hanson conceive of any demagogue that would be so far outside the tent that his capture of the Republican nomination would be illegitimate? What more, by that I mean what conceivable act or statement, would Trump have to do or make to cause him to withdrawal his support? I only ask this because Dr. Hanson is one the the people in public life I admire most.

    Petty, your question is so easy to answer, but you’re in the wrong venue.

    Ask him.

    Professor Hanson has an “Angry Reader” section on his web-site, where he regularly answers questions much more argumentative than yours.

    I get email updates from VDH with every new posting, so I’ll be looking for your question.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 3:02 pm
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  16. Profile photo of Petty Boozswha Member

    Thanks Freesmith.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 3:14 pm
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  17. Profile photo of Freesmith Member

    Petty Boozswha:Thanks Freesmith.

    You’re welcome.

    But one tip if you want your question answered in that section of VDH Private Papers: phrase your question in an angry tone (even though I know you’re not). You know, the “Cancel my subscription!” attitude.

    If you require help with that, my services are available – for a small fee.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 3:53 pm
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  18. Profile photo of Richard Fulmer Member

    I agreed with VDH up to this point (at about 15:30):

    Rather than [take] a reasonable position [and] say, ‘Whatever this was, I’m a Republican and we’ve got to work to improve this candidate.’ They said, ‘Never. He’s not of my class, he’s not of my temperament, he’s an embarrassment. Socially and career-wise I will suffer if I put my imprimatur on him.’

    And then this at 17:50:

    If we could ask them privately, off the record, promise not to tell anybody, I think they would prefer Hillary to win. Not because they like her agenda, just because at least they would be… the noble opposition. But, my gosh, if Trump wins, they would be irrelevant.

    First, many people did try to improve Trump as a candidate, and they failed miserably. They were never able, for example, to get him to stop sending out bizarre tweets at 3am. In the end, he threw off their “shackles,” and reverted to being himself.

    Next, VDH looked into the hearts of Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump and divined that they were not driven into opposition by his poorly thought out and contradictory positions, his parodies of Republican ideas, his instability, his craving for adulation, his susceptibility to flattery, his bullying, his threats to use the power of the presidency against his personal enemies, his vile language, his disgusting treatment of women, his shady business dealings, or his deep admiration for dictators. No, who could reasonably object to any of that? Clearly they oppose Trump only because he is socially and intellectually beneath them, and because supporting Trump would embarrass them with their friends and hurt their careers.

    Early in the interview, he said that he understood people’s misgivings about Trump, and then he effectively claimed that their misgivings are little more than a self-serving façade.

    Opposition to Donald Trump is hardly proof of evil intent.

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    • October 29, 2016 at 9:33 pm
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