When you say Paris this week, one thinks of jihadi killers – but that’s not what President Obama thinks about. He’s looking forward to the great summit on climate change set to begin there next week. Jay and Mona welcome Steve Hayward, the right’s most astute analyst of the folks he has christened the “climatistas,” to fill us in on what to expect. Will it be a second Kyoto? More end runs around Congress perhaps? Steve explains what it means to be a “luke-warmer” on climate.

Next, the conversation moves to John Kerry and his staggeringly gross comments about the terrorists and murder (some are “understandable” apparently), an update on the collective nervous breakdown on American campuses, memories of Bill Buckley’s unsuccessful mayoral race in 1965, whether you should shake hands with a dictator, and what will happen if the Republican party actually nominates you know who.

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  1. OmegaPaladin Moderator

    I highly recommend Anthony Watt’s website WattsUpWithThat for climate info.

    It sounds like your podcast was cut off early

    • #1
    • November 21, 2015, at 12:16 AM PST
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  2. Sal Member

    Mona, Jay duty calls us to hold our noses and vote for Trump if he is the nominee. Of course, we should make every effort to get another nominee, but in the event The Donald is the nominee, however clueless, crass, bombastic and crony-capitalistic, he’s not Hillary. True, in Trump’s hands the country would be in peril but under Hillary it would be destroyed. Trump, whatever his faults, actually likes the country. Hillary, like Obama, finds Anerica to be terribly embarrassing and can’t wait to “fundamentally transform it”. Our duty is to choose the lesser of two evils.

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    • November 21, 2015, at 12:12 PM PST
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  3. Petty Boozswha Inactive

    Please don’t lose heart with the support Trump is getting right now – remember how far ahead Howard Dean was in 2004 as a way for Dems to vent against Bush until the last week before the Iowa caucuses.

    • #3
    • November 21, 2015, at 2:29 PM PST
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  4. noach Inactive

    Could you post details of the closing music? Lovely.

    • #4
    • November 21, 2015, at 4:41 PM PST
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  5. Koblog Inactive

    I can’t describe how fun this NTK podcast is.

    Listening to Jay and Mona descend into sheer panic over Trump is totally entertaining. It’s like being inside their shared nightmare as they trudge around in bleak outer darkness groping in vain for an exit.

    In this latest installment, our intrepid pundits have come to the point where they are both threatening to leave the Republican party if we stupid bumpkins not listen to them that Trump can in no way win. What is happening to my…my…party!? Are Republicans that foolish?

    Would that they come to their senses and pull for an “electable” candidate like Rockefeller, HW Bush, Dole, McCain or Romney. Would that they see the plain wisdom and raw leadership of Boehner and McConnell. Would that they acquire the communication skills of Kevin McCarthy. Would that they saw the expediency of Paul Ryan’s plan for unlimited immigration and more spending, giving Obama everything he wants. Would they had read the dozens of detailed — and ignored — Jindal policy white papers.

    The dread of Mona and Jay is almost as entertaining as feeling the palpable fear gripping the whole of NRO clear down to Jonah’s missing pants.

    “Trummmmmmmmmpppppppp. Nooooooooooooooooo! Not Trump. Anyone but Trump!!! He’s not…not…nice.

    • #5
    • November 21, 2015, at 8:28 PM PST
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  6. Mona Charen Contributor

    Koblog:I can’t describe how fun this NTK podcast is.

    Listening to Jay and Mona descend into sheer panic over Trump is totally entertaining. It’s like being inside their shared nightmare as they trudge around in bleak outer darkness groping in vain for an exit.

    In this latest installment, our intrepid pundits have come to the point where they are both threatening to leave the Republican party if we stupid bumpkins not listen to them that Trump can in no way win. What is happening to my…my…party!? Are Republicans that foolish?

    Would that they come to their senses and pull for an “electable” candidate like Rockefeller, HW Bush, Dole, McCain or Romney. Would that they see the plain wisdom and raw leadership of Boehner and McConnell. Would that they acquire the communication skills of Kevin McCarthy. Would that they saw the expediency of Paul Ryan’s plan for unlimited immigration and more spending, giving Obama everything he wants. Would they had read the dozens of detailed — and ignored — Jindal policy white papers.

    The dread of Mona and Jay is almost as entertaining as feeling the palpable fear gripping the whole of NRO clear down to Jonah’s missing pants.

    “Trummmmmmmmmpppppppp. Nooooooooooooooooo! Not Trump. Anyone but Trump!!! He’s not…not…nice.

    Right, he’s not nice. Neither is he qualified or conservative. He would lose in a landslide and give us President Rodham. I see the writer heaps scorn on Paul Ryan. Here is a summary of Paul Ryan’s budget reform proposal: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/12/the-future-of-health-care-reform-paul-ryan-s-roadmap-and-its-critics

    Let’s see yours Koblog.

    • #6
    • November 22, 2015, at 5:52 AM PST
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  7. mfgcbot Member
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    noach:Could you post details of the closing music? Lovely.

    That is the final movement, “Allegro Molto”, of Beethoven’s String Quartet in C major, Opus 59, No. 3. The three quartets of Opus 59 were dedicated to Beethoven’s patron, Count Andreas Rasumovsky, and are usually referred to simply as the “Rasumovsky Quartets”.

    • #7
    • November 22, 2015, at 5:58 AM PST
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  8. Benjamin Glaser Inactive

    Better or worse…

    William Jennings Bryan

    or

    Donald J. Trump

    • #8
    • November 22, 2015, at 7:06 AM PST
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  9. Koblog Inactive

    (I’m not even going to try to use this clumsy website’s comments “quote” system. Inline response to a person’s comment is much superior.)

    Anyway, wow, Mona, a forgotten five-year old Ryan proposal from 2010. Excellent. You schooled me. I give. Why no reference to Jindal’s and Romney’s white papers too? As if anything our Congress proposes will be implemented. Ha. It’s not like Pelosi or Reid are in charge, now, is it? We Republicans worry over white papers and proposals no one has read instead of connecting with the people. Meanwhile, Democrats pass laws no one has read. What did Republicans accomplish when they had both houses and the White House? Nothing.

    We put “nice” people up as presidential and VP nominees, then lose. (Dole, anyone?) Sorry, but Paul Ryan is a demonstrated loser, because he, um, lost.

    We won’t win until our nominee 1) takes it to the Democrat nominee, which our “nice guys” (McCain, Romney, Ryan) won’t do, and 2) knows how to handle the leftist media.

    Who can do this better than Trump? Cruz, maybe. Jeb? Christie? Pataki? Kasich? Graham? Right.

    And I’d be careful claiming to know future election results. Not wise. Predictions are difficult, especially about the future.

    You and Jay (and most of NRO) simply cannot fathom how disappointed, let down and betrayed we members of the Republican base feel over what has been foisted upon us by the GOPe.

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    • November 22, 2015, at 8:54 PM PST
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  10. OmegaPaladin Moderator

    Why Trump, then? Why not Cruzorina? Have Cruz or Carly been reluctant to give the establishment or Democrats both barrels?

    I want to beat some sense into Scott Walker’s campaign manager, since if he hadn’t screwed up the finances, my favorite candidate would have been in the race. Even if Walker did nothing but break the power of federal unions, that would have been amazing.

    The problem with Trump is that he’s been all over the place ideologically. I have no idea what he would actually DO in office.

    • #10
    • November 23, 2015, at 7:07 AM PST
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  11. Bkelley14 Inactive

    The problem with Trump is he is a jerk, and worse, a thin-skinned, going off the rail at times jerk. I applaud Mona and Jay and their comments concerning Trump on the podcast. The reason a potentially great president — Mitt Romney — didn’t win wasn’t because he was too nice. It was because not enough of the American electorate these days respects the qualities of class, morality and steadiness in a candidate. Sad, and very, very scary. And Mona is so right, Trump would destroy the Republican party for years. And, Mona and Jay are also right that a party that would condone/support Trump is a party I no longer recognize or would want to identify with. And I know many, many of my friends and neighbors feel the same. They don’t want to be associated with such a laughingstock candidate.

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    • November 23, 2015, at 12:39 PM PST
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  12. Pepe LePew Inactive

    You should look at Trump’s 2011 book on politics: Time to Get Tough—-Making America #1 Again. Apparently written to help defeat Obama in 2012, it starts with criticism of China that mirrors his recent speeches. It is written in his style of speaking so may not be ghost-written. Those who speculate that Trump has no ideological foundation may be wrong. You should read up on his positions to discern the consistency of his policy positions, and whether Trump is a “real conservative” or a “real Republican”. Perhaps if his written opinions, instead of his personality, had been the subject of criticism he would not be in the lead position.

    • #12
    • November 23, 2015, at 1:28 PM PST
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  13. Dan T Inactive

    Get a grip guys. Trump hasn’t won it yet.

    I know Nate Silver isn’t the most popular guy in conservative circles, but he is a good statistician and here is his current estimate of Trump’s chances:
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dear-media-stop-freaking-out-about-donald-trumps-polls/

    • #13
    • November 23, 2015, at 6:38 PM PST
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  14. Mona Charen Contributor

    Thanks Dan T. Very interesting.

    • #14
    • November 23, 2015, at 6:55 PM PST
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  15. JimGoneWild Coolidge

    Can someone post all the lists and choices?

    • #15
    • November 24, 2015, at 3:59 PM PST
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