Presidential historian Tevi Troy drops by to talk about crises. He’s written a book titled Shall We Wake the President? Wilson was a flop at responding to the 1918 flu, but Reagan responded well to the Tylenol poisoning case. This much is certain: Every president will have to respond to a crisis, so . . .

After Tevi departs Jay and Mona consider the crisis of the election and the hypocrisy of the right. How did we get here? Will we all come back together after November 8? 

Music from this week’s episode: Leontyne Price, Carlo Bergonzi – Aida, “O terra addio”

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  1. John Berg Member
    John Berg
    @JohnBerg

    I love Mona and Jay and Need to Know.  I totally agree with them about Trump and the hypocrisy of so many on the “right” (conservatives?  I don’t think so) who have endorsed, explained, and supported him.  Jay and Mona are understandably upset about this whole affair and especially the accusations that have been made at them.  However, in the last couple of months this point has been made repeatedly.   In my humble opinion more heat than light is coming from this discussion.  The facts, complaints, and wounds are mostly the same and they’re just depressing.  What I’m asking is for Jay and Mona to limit the amount of time spend “bitchin'” on this issue and  spend more time talking about their wonderful insights, predictions, interests, stories, and guests.

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  2. Spiral9399 Inactive
    Spiral9399
    @HeavyWater

    Jay said, “Either it is one way or the other,” regarding the role of the Republican primary voters and the delegates to the Republican National Convention in selecting the presidential nominee.  But it really isn’t as simple as Jay suggests.  Mona mentioned that the Democrats have different rules in determining their presidential nominee.  While Mona mentioned the role of Super Delegates, a more important rule difference is the Democrats’ requirement that all states allocate their delegates by a system of proportional representation (with a 15 percent threshold).  If the Republicans had required all states to use proportional representation in allocating delegates to the convention, many candidates would have been tempted to stay in the presidential race until the end of the primaries, hoping to accumulate as many delegates as possible.  With 17 candidates at the beginning, 12 candidates competing in Iowa and 6 candidates competing in South Carolina, it is likely that no candidate would have received a majority of the delegates.  From February though mid-April, Trump never won a majority of the vote in any state primary or caucus.  Yet, Trump was able to accumulate a large delegate lead by winning in states that allocated delegates through a winner take all system (Florida, Arizona) or winner by take all by congressional district system (Illinois, Missouri, South Carolina).   Under a proportional representation system, the delegates at the convention would have been forced to determine the nominee on a second or third or subsequent ballot.

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  3. steven Iverson Member
    steven Iverson
    @stevenIverson

    Have Jay and Mona forgotten who the Clintons are? It seems so given their preference for another Clinton administration over a Trump administration. As a reminder of who the Clintons are I suggest Jay and Mona read the following article by the author of “Ron Brown’s Body.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/03/ron_browns_house_of_cards.html

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  4. Nick Baldock Member
    Nick Baldock
    @NickBaldock

    In general terms, I would agree that Mona and Jay are better to be positive and constructive; but, at this point, they can hardly be blamed for bitchin’.

    There is one overriding question that I look forward to being answered: will the Trump supporters come to accept that they effected a Republican defeat and thus a Clinton presidency?

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  5. Mona Charen Contributor
    Mona Charen
    @MonaCharen

    Spiral9399, you make an unassailable point. What are the possible downsides of moving to a proportional system? Protracting the primary process that costs the eventual winner money? Is that all? Because if that’s the only disadvantage, it seems like an excellent reform to me. Also, I would move to a regional primary system. Maybe something along these lines: http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/a-republican-nomination-process

     

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  6. Spiral9399 Inactive
    Spiral9399
    @HeavyWater

    Mona Charen:

    What are the possible downsides of moving to a proportional system? Protracting the primary process that costs the eventual winner money? Is that all? Because if that’s the only disadvantage, it seems like an excellent reform to me.

    Mona, I’m thrilled that you found my analysis compelling.  Now, if I put on my RNC apparatchik hat for a second, I can see the disadvantage of allocating delegates proportionally.  Let’s say this system had been implemented for the 2016 GOP primaries.  I am guessing that Trump would have ended up with 35 percent of the delegates.  Rubio and Cruz would have garnered 20 percent each, with the remaining delegates split between Kasich, Jeb Bush, Christie, Fiorina and Carson.  With that result, perhaps it would be difficult to get the party to unite around the eventual nominee.  I do think that most RNC officials would prefer this scenario to a Trump nomination.  But what they really prefer is a first ballot nomination of a mainstream Republican, which is probably why winner take all statewide or winner take all by congressional district primaries are so common in the GOP contest.

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  7. Mr. Conservative Inactive
    Mr. Conservative
    @mrconservative

    Very well done. NTK is always one of my favorite podcasts. God bless each of you and may your tribe increase!

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