Jay and Mona pay tribute to a great French pilot and a tough Mossad agent. They also talk of Biden’s flaws, the Democrats’ drift, the Mueller report, and a great show — “1776.”

Music From This Week’s Show:  But Mr. Adams – 1776 (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)

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  1. Member

    I really, really wish Jay would get a land line – I had to turn off the podcast due to his constant fading in and out and fluctuations in volume. I know Blue Yeti does his best but you guys need to help him out.+

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    • March 30, 2019 at 4:00 pm
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    A little surprised (guess I shouldn’t have been) that Mona & Jay took a poke at Trump for changing his tune on Mueller, from a “witch hunter” to an honorable investigator. In the same position what else could anyone say? “He’s still a rotten witch hunter even though he vindicated me.”? I’ve got to say Mona and Jay just can’t let their distaste of Trump go. I suppose if every news media and their brother weren’t already piling on Trump it wouldn’t come across so trite.

    • #2
    • March 31, 2019 at 9:40 am
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    jonb60173 (View Comment):

    A little surprised (guess I shouldn’t have been) that Mona & Jay took a poke at Trump for changing his tune on Mueller, from a “witch hunter” to an honorable investigator. In the same position what else could anyone say? “He’s still a rotten witch hunter even though he vindicated me.”? I’ve got to say Mona and Jay just can’t let their distaste of Trump go. I suppose if every news media and their brother weren’t already piling on Trump it wouldn’t come across so trite.

    Mona and Jay are guilty of a logical fallacy (not for the first time).

    The fact that, after an exhaustive two-year effort, Mueller and his team of Democrats couldn’t find much on Pres. Trump doesn’t mean they weren’t biased against him, and weren’t eager to get him if they could. They just weren’t ready to manufacture evidence out of whole cloth. 

    Even setting political bias aside, it’s only human nature to want to show some justification, some achievement after so much work.

    Indeed, a wise former prosecutor pointed out that this is one of the problems inherent in a special counsel. Normally a prosecutor is forced to go on to other cases and let some things go, but (like Capt. Ahab) a special counsel has no other cases to pursue.

    • #3
    • April 1, 2019 at 7:57 am
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  4. Coolidge

    If you wish to hear Mona and Jay “excluding the middle“ with all their might, as discussed above, start listening at 21:00. Unfortunately I don’t have the time to transcribe their remarks, so you’ll have to listen to find out just how [pick your own disparaging term] they are.

    Another embarrassing moment is at 35:00, where they should have put the blame on George Conway, but didn’t.

    First, it’s not like Donald Trump lacks critics; Conway should simply shut up to avoid embarrassing his wife, if he has any feelings for her at all. Second, when he questions Donald Trump‘s mental health, the clear implication is that he knows something about it because his wife has been telling tales out of school — which could easily end her career.

    A funnier faux pas is at about 42:00, when Mona informs us that the famous Israeli raid on Entebbe occurred on July 4, 1776, and Jay makes a sound of approval.

    Obviously, they had the musical, 1776, in their heads. The patriotic liberals who created that have all died out, sadly.

    • #4
    • April 1, 2019 at 9:45 am
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    Taras (View Comment):
    The fact that, after an exhaustive two-year effort, Mueller and his team of Democrats couldn’t find much on Pres. Trump doesn’t mean they weren’t biased against him, and weren’t eager to get him if they could. They just weren’t ready to manufacture evidence out of whole cloth. 

    Or maybe the people who ran the probe were honorable and just wanted to get at the truth. Remember that Mueller fired Peter Strzok from the team for his bias against Trump — and he clearly didn’t do so as some kind of virtue signalling, because he did so quietly, long before anybody in the media found out about it and without telling them.

    Why besmirch the name of a man against whom you have nothing? Mueller wasn’t responsible for the Steele dossier or the FISA warrants or any of the other things the pro-Trump side complains about. Give the guy the credit he is due: He didn’t leak, he didn’t smear, and the only time he ever responded to anything in the media was davka to defend Trump.

    • #5
    • April 3, 2019 at 12:33 am
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    Jay and Mona were way off base on a couple of things this episode:

    • With all kudos to Steny Hoyer’s thinly-veiled attack on the three lunatic freshmen Democrats, he showed himself to have a spine of jelly when he clarified the next day that “I was lamenting that the media does not appear to be paying enough attention to other excellent new members.” So much for a principled stand against anti-Semitism.
    • Pelosi is statesmanlike?! After the debacle with the censure-that-never-happened? I call shenanigans.
    • I can’t actually blame Jay and Mona for not knowing the details of this, but their praise of Israel’s Supreme Court is terribly misplaced. We have the most activist, left-wing Supreme Court in the world. At the same time as the court banned a right-wing Jewish supremacist, it overturned the ban of a far-left Islamic party whose founder passed defense information to Hizbullah, has another MK in prison for smuggling cellular phones to imprisoned terrorists, and had another MK on the infamous Mavi Marmara.
      The hypocrisy there was staggering, and significantly increased the support for the banned right-winger’s party. As a free-speech absolutist I think neither should have been banned, but dammit if you’re going to ban one you should be consistent and ban them both.
    • #6
    • April 3, 2019 at 12:40 am
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    DanielSterman (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    The fact that, after an exhaustive two-year effort, Mueller and his team of Democrats couldn’t find much on Pres. Trump doesn’t mean they weren’t biased against him, and weren’t eager to get him if they could. They just weren’t ready to manufacture evidence out of whole cloth.

    Or maybe the people who ran the probe were honorable and just wanted to get at the truth. Remember that Mueller fired Peter Strzok from the team for his bias against Trump — and he clearly didn’t do so as some kind of virtue signalling, because he did so quietly, long before anybody in the media found out about it and without telling them.

    Why besmirch the name of a man against whom you have nothing? Mueller wasn’t responsible for the Steele dossier or the FISA warrants or any of the other things the pro-Trump side complains about. Give the guy the credit he is due: He didn’t leak, he didn’t smear, and the only time he ever responded to anything in the media was davka to defend Trump.

    I was merely pointing out that Mona and Jay are guilty of the Fallacy of the Excluded Middle, also known as the False Dichotomy, when they present Mueller as either a devil or an angel, but nothing in between. 

    When Ken Starr investigated a Democratic President, he put together a team of Democrats: to be fair. When Bob Mueller investigated a Republican President, he put together a team of — Democrats, and Trump-hating Democrats at that: to be unfair, or so it would appear. 

    Mueller didn’t fire Peter Strzok for his bias against Trump — indeed, it’s more likely he hired him for his bias against Trump — but for blabbing it in a way that couldn’t be hushed up or denied. Unlike the other members of the team, Strzok was merely guilty of honesty. 

    Compared to some previous Special Counsels, who timed indictments to do maximum damage to the Republicans, Mueller doesn’t look so bad. On the other hand, he did take the job, in spite of disqualifying ties to Jim Comey. He did assemble a sort of lynch mob as a staff. And, unable to corroborate the always flimsy obstruction charge, he still refused to let it go altogether. 

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    • April 3, 2019 at 7:19 am
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    I’m not going to get into a big argument about it but Dan Bongino, Howie Carr, and Harvey Silvergate are pretty compelling about Mueller not being that great of a guy. Bongino goes into it on the Sunday or Monday podcast.

    • #8
    • April 3, 2019 at 7:28 am
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