Over the Wall, the R’s and the Dems are playing a game of chicken. That’s one thing Mona and Jay say about this shutdown drama. Who’s going to swerve away first? Is the border a genuine national emergency? Then our hosts talk about Tucker Carlson’s monologue heard ’round the world, or certainly ’round the Right, as Mona says: What are the limits of government? What can government do for people? What should it? Also included in this episode are the greatness of California (whatever its problems), the malice of dictators, the glory of music, and other vital subjects. Have a listen.

Music from this week’s episode: The Allegretto from Beethoven’s Symphony No. 7, played by the Cleveland Orchestra under George Szell

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There are 7 comments.

  1. Joe D. Lincoln

    To be honest, if people will get up in arms and claim that the President does not have the right to exercise the power he’s talking about trying to exercise. I hope he tries and the congress (or maybe the court) stops him – which would demonstrate and create precedent for the Congress stopping the president from doing something he should not be able to do in the future. What the President wants to do is relatively benign and possibly even something I might like (I’m undecided), but I would rather see the Congress reassert it’s authority. I would prefer if the Congress stopped him without the court, as if it needs the court than it is still dependent on the whims of unelected permanent seats of absolute power with no way for the people to bring them under control.

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    • January 11, 2019, at 8:00 AM PDT
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  2. Joe D. Lincoln

    If Trump is pro-Russian and pro-Putin, does it necessarily follow that he is Pro-Soviet?

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    • January 11, 2019, at 8:18 AM PDT
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  3. Hoyacon Member

    Well, I’ve always liked the Seventh Symphony. Beethoven must’ve been in a good mood.

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    • January 11, 2019, at 3:40 PM PDT
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  4. George Townsend Member

    Joe D. (View Comment):

    To be honest, if people will get up in arms and claim that the President does not have the right to exercise the power he’s talking about trying to exercise. I hope he tries and the congress (or maybe the court) stops him – which would demonstrate and create precedent for the Congress stopping the president from doing something he should not be able to do in the future. What the President wants to do is relatively benign and possibly even something I might like (I’m undecided), but I would rather see the Congress reassert it’s authority. I would prefer if the Congress stopped him without the court, as if it needs the court than it is still dependent on the whims of unelected permanent seats of absolute power with no way for the people to bring them under control.

    I don’t think I agree. What if the Congress does not stop him? It is quite possible. And who knows what the courts will do? Then the president will have been set. What if a future Democrat decided that “Global Warming” is a crisis, and decides to reallocate stupendous amounts of money to fight it. What do we do then?

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    • January 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM PDT
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  5. Lazy_Millennial Member

    Joe D. (View Comment):

    If Trump is pro-Russian and pro-Putin, does it necessarily follow that he is Pro-Soviet?

    He took a trip to Moscow in 1987, then came home and published an ad criticizing America’s foreign policy, in language that is very similar to what he ran on in 2015. 

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    • January 14, 2019, at 8:12 AM PDT
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  6. Daniel Sterman Listener

    Joe D. (View Comment):

    If Trump is pro-Russian and pro-Putin, does it necessarily follow that he is Pro-Soviet?

    It does if Trump supported the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan.

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    • January 14, 2019, at 10:14 AM PDT
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  7. rgbact Member

    I wouldn’t waste much time trying too make sense of Tucker Carlson’s rant. Its really nothing but Trump idolatry and a lame attempt to appeal to his blue collar voters(many of them being economically more in line with Bernie than Milton). Romney slammed Trump so Tucker had to slam that evil capitalist Romney (with zero details). I’ll bet Trump’s “national emergency” farce is real popular on FOX too. FOX is a mess. Sadly, Tucker is the smartest guy left at FOX and even he couldn’t stay true to conservatism.

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    • January 16, 2019, at 11:03 AM PDT
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