The new year begins with a behind the scenes book that President Trump is attempting to suppress. Jay and Mona consider its merits or faults. This leads to a discussion of conservative virtues and Burke v. Paine. They then move on to Steve Bannon, Mitt Romney, Sweden, the British health service, and parties.

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There are 15 comments.

  1. Member

    Big Book Shakes Washington

    Rest of the country yawns, gets on with their lives.

    • #1
    • January 5, 2018 at 2:37 pm
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Big Book Shakes Washington

    Rest of the country yawns, gets on with their lives.

    This!

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    • January 5, 2018 at 2:41 pm
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  3. Coolidge

    Trumpers want you to say they did the right thing in voting for Trump. Both in the primary and the general. They will be happy with nothing less.

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    • January 5, 2018 at 2:47 pm
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    Shaken baby syndrome book, but not stirred to impeachment. Sorry pundits, you get 3 more years.

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    • January 5, 2018 at 2:51 pm
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    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):
    Trumpers want you to say they did the right thing in voting for Trump. Both in the primary and the general. They will be happy with nothing less.

    Yes we all think and act alike. Like an insidious hive mind incapable of self-reflection.

    We should all be killed but only after years of camp internment.

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    • January 5, 2018 at 2:54 pm
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  6. Coolidge

    DocJay (View Comment):

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):
    Trumpers want you to say they did the right thing in voting for Trump. Both in the primary and the general. They will be happy with nothing less.

    Yes we all think and act alike. Like an insidious hive mind incapable of self-reflection.

    We should all be killed but only after years of camp internment.

    Judging by some of the comments on here you all do indeed think alike and demand we all fall in line with your “thinking”. Ain’t gonna happen.

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    • January 5, 2018 at 3:55 pm
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    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    DocJay (View Comment):

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):
    Trumpers want you to say they did the right thing in voting for Trump. Both in the primary and the general. They will be happy with nothing less.

    Yes we all think and act alike. Like an insidious hive mind incapable of self-reflection.

    We should all be killed but only after years of camp internment.

    Judging by some of the comments on here you all do indeed think alike and demand we all fall in line with your “thinking”. Ain’t gonna happen.

    Copy that. Have a righteous weekend. ;-)

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    • January 5, 2018 at 5:19 pm
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    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):
    Trumpers want you to say they did the right thing in voting for Trump. Both in the primary and the general. They will be happy with nothing less.

    Julia, I don’t know if the ones on Ricochet are representative of them or not. Some on Ricochet will listen, and it does hearten me when some will desist from saying how rotten one is for not getting on board the train, and at least seem to give you a hearing. But there are far too many who will not just hear you out, mangle what you have to say, and otherwise be really frivolous about it. I’ve almost given in to not engaging them at all.

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    • January 6, 2018 at 12:13 pm
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  9. Member

    T0 get away from the Trump stuff for a bit (although this might be related, to a degree), I just wanted to point how interesting this Podcast was. This is always a hazardous thing to say, as it may leave some to infer that I think the others aren’t that interesting. This is not the case, as I think all Need to Knows are interesting, and it remains my favorite Podcast.

    But I was drawn to the philosophy of conservatism, and to the degree in which some adherents practice it. I was thinking about the Reagan brand close to the time I heard this program. And I thought to myself what a coincidence it is.

    See, Ronald Reagan was not content to live with the Soviet Union, as some other conservatives may have been, out of fear of war. This, to my mind, is why Reagan was such a standout. The Gipper was determined that the Soviets should see “The dustbin of history”, and he pursued the means, both rhetorically and through policy, to bring that about.

    Perhaps we need new descriptions, such as, say, “Passive Conservative” and “Active Conservative”. I judge Reagan to have been an Active Conservative, and the world is better for it!

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    • January 6, 2018 at 2:25 pm
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    George Townsend (View Comment):
    T0 get away from the Trump stuff for a bit (although this might be related, to a degree), I just wanted to point how interesting this Podcast was. This is always a hazardous thing to say, as it may leave some to infer that I think the others aren’t that interesting. This is not the case, as I think all Need to Knows are interesting, and it remains my favorite Podcast.

    But I was drawn to the philosophy of conservatism, and to the degree in which some adherents practice it. I was thinking about the Reagan brand close to the time I heard this program. And I thought to myself what a coincidence it is.

    See, Ronald Reagan was not content to live with the Soviet Union, as some other conservatives may have been, out of fear of war. This, to my mind, is why Reagan was such a standout. The Gipper was determined that the Soviets should see “The dustbin of history”, and he pursued the means, both rhetorically and through policy, to bring that about.

    Perhaps we need new descriptions, such as, say, “Passive Conservative” and “Active Conservative”. I judge Reagan to have been an Active Conservative, and the world is better for it!

    How would you judge our odd president taking on N Korea, Isis, Iran, UN , deep state, public service unions , China, teachers unions, colleges , nfl PC , media , Hollywood. Etc ??

    It seems, outside of character, he checks every box… or at least his people do.

    My first vote was for Reagan in 84 and it was still my best one. I regard the one for Trump as potentially nation saving.

    The inherent difference between reluctant Trump supporters and the NT continued detractors is the whole flight 93 type thoughts.

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    • January 6, 2018 at 2:48 pm
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    DocJay (View Comment):
    The inherent difference between reluctant Trump supporters and the NT continued detractors is the whole flight 93 type thoughts.

    I refuse to get into the Trump thing. I’ve spent the better part of several days going around and around on this. Suffice it to say that I disagree with you emphatically. This comment was primarily about Reagan, not Trump.

    One observation, though: I have continually asked not to be called a NeverTrumper. I would like to think that those who disagreed with me about this matter could at least show me the respect of calling me what I wish to be called: A Trump Skeptic!

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    • January 6, 2018 at 5:09 pm
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

    DocJay (View Comment):
    The inherent difference between reluctant Trump supporters and the NT continued detractors is the whole flight 93 type thoughts.

    I refuse to get into the Trump thing. I’ve spent the better part of several days going around and around on this. Suffice it to say that I disagree with you emphatically. This comment was primarily about Reagan, not Trump.

    One observation, though: I have continually asked not to be called a NeverTrumper. I would like to think that those who disagreed with me about this matter could at least show me the respect of calling me what I wish to be called: A Trump Skeptic!

    No offense intended. Take care.

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    • January 6, 2018 at 6:27 pm
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  13. Inactive

    Need to Know was once my favorite podcast. But in the Trump era, it has become insufferable. Each episode is like eavesdropping on a therapy session with Mona and Jay complaining to their therapist about Trump. I don’t like Trump either, but I am already aware of his poor character and other traits. So how about some discussion of the tax law, or any other current events? Instead we get an hour of Trump bashing. If I want that, I can just turn on any news channel (except Fox).

    I think the flagship podcast has navigated the Trump era the best. James will be the one tweaking Trump and mentioning how unfit he is, then Peter will say, “yes, but…” and then they will go about discussing current events.

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    • January 7, 2018 at 10:07 am
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    Keith Keystone (View Comment):
    Each episode is like eavesdropping on a therapy session with Mona and Jay complaining to their therapist about Trump.

    I was struck by that as well.

    It seems odd to me that it seems appropriate to any thoughtful person to open 2018 with the same observations about President Trump made at the start of 2017 — that he’s unfit, erratic, unstable, and, as Mona put it “stupid.” There’s no news here: people who believe that have believed that all year; people who disagree have disagreed all year.

    What is different at the start of 2018, and what Mona and Jay, two undoubtedly bright people, completely failed to mention, is that the administration actually had a good year — better than anyone except stalwart pro-Trump enthusiasts anticipated. (Certainly I didn’t expect it to go nearly as well.) That was worth mentioning. The fact that the substantive accomplishments of the administration were deemed unworthy of comment casts their hackneyed Trump criticisms — however inherently defensible — in a less flattering light, and makes our hosts sound obsessed with the personality of Trump to the exclusion of all else.

    That, after all, is just another spin on the cult of personality they rightly condemn. And it’s both boring and unconstructive.

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    • January 9, 2018 at 9:40 am
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    That, after all, is just another spin on the cult of personality they rightly condemn. And it’s both boring and unconstructive.

    That’s a good point. The people crying about Trump’s alleged “cult of personality” seem to have created a cult of their own.

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    • January 9, 2018 at 10:06 am
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