There being no shortage of news to discuss, Mona and Jay wade in: the Korean Peninsula, Trump, Macron, Mulvaney, Pruitt, Cohen, Cosby, etc. There is also talk about books and movies and TV shows. And music – the podcast goes out with a snippet from one of the mightiest works ever written, Bruckner’s Symphony No. 9.

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There are 14 comments.

  1. George Townsend Inactive

    Hi, Mona!

    Two things…..

    Harrah to you for making the comments about North Korea. Of course, we hope for the best. As much as I dislike Mr. Trump and view him as not being worthy of the high office he holds, we have to, as Americans, wish him well. But I just hope he doesn’t let his ego get in the way – again – and be buffaloed by these evil folk in that prison over there. They are murderers and torturers; what makes us think they would not lie to us? We have to keep a very wary eye on them; and I just hope and pray that Trump is up to it.

    On Hannity: I have no use for the guy. He may be the nicest guy in the world, as I’ve heard, but his ability to understand the world, and then to give rational guidance as to what should be done, leaves a great deal to be desired. Matter of fact, there are only two talk shows hosts I give great respect to: Far and away, Michael Medved. Farther down, but still worth listening to, is Hugh Hewitt.

    Having written that, I think you were wrong, Mona, to put Hannity in the same league as The New York Times. Hannity is a commentator. We needn’t expect much from him. The Times is supposed to be this responsible organ of unbiased journalism. They frequently are not, but they represent themselves as such. We need to expect them to issue corrections when they are wrong. Hannity not so much.

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    • April 28, 2018, at 3:46 AM PDT
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  2. George Townsend Inactive

    May I say something else, Mona? I wrote the above before the Podcast was over.

    I wanted to hear you quip about what they used to say about being conservative, referring to the Macneil-Lehrer report. And then Jay interrupted you, and you never did get to finish. Listen, I love the fact that you are a lady, but could you please ask this guy to be a gentleman for once, and stop interrupting you?

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    • April 28, 2018, at 4:06 AM PDT
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  3. filmklassik Member

    So Mona, thus far, 100 pages into the memoir, appears to be taking Comey’s self-aggrandizement at face value. Contrast this “hot take” with that of another Ricochet podcaster, John Podhoretz, who’s expressed nothing but contempt for what he calls Comey’s faux-sanctimony.

    I haven’t read the book myself, and probably never will. My comment is merely an observation about how two bright, principled conservatives can have such wildly divergent opinions about the same work by the same person.

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    • April 28, 2018, at 4:15 AM PDT
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  4. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    After watching that execrable presser Comey gave after the meeting on the tarmac and the mountains of evidence that Hillary Clinton had broken several laws, I simply cannot have any respect for Comey and wouldn’t waste any money on his book. 

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    • April 28, 2018, at 10:00 AM PDT
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  5. Eugene Kriegsmann Member

    I really like Mona and Jay, but more and more I feel like I am listening to MSNBC. I am no fan of Trump, but he is the president and I deal with that by doing what Ben Shapiro calls “calling balls and strikes.” The example of the Comey book and the different take, vis a vis, Mona and Podhoretz Strikes me as an example of Mona going to the opposite extreme of those who find nothing wrong with anything Trump does by finding nothing he does acceptable or positive, and anyone who opposes him as being automatically credible and acceptable. 

    I used to really enjoy the podcast, but it seems to be a continuum of bashing Trump, a mirror image the Harvard Lunch Club podcast which I stopped listening to a while back. Mona and Jay are both brilliant conservatives whose ideas I have always treasured, but this podcast has become a very narrow and unpleasant commentary on all things anti-Trump. It is monotonal and negative, nothing like it used to be. It is time to move on to topics that are uplifting and optimistic and get off the endless rant against the vulgarian tendencies of Trump.

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    • April 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM PDT
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  6. Hoyacon Member

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    I used to really enjoy the podcast, but it seems to be a continuum of bashing Trump, a mirror image the Harvard Lunch Club podcast which I stopped listening to a while back. Mona and Jay are both brilliant conservatives whose ideas I have always treasured, but this podcast has become a very narrow and unpleasant commentary on all things anti-Trump. It is monotonal and negative, nothing like it used to be. It is time to move on to topics that are uplifting and optimistic and get off the endless rant against the vulgarian tendencies of Trump.

    I don’t listen anymore for some of the reasons that you cite, so won’t comment on specifics. But, since I’m generally aware of the topics, it’s not just a matter of consistent anti-Trump vitriol, but the avoidance of anything that could be perceived as giving “aid and comfort” to Trump’s “side”–whether or not newsworthy. There have, for example, been some pretty serious revelations of late about the conduct of Messrs. McCabe, Comey, and Clapper. It strikes me that “brilliant conservatives” might want to probe this area from a somewhat neutral perspective rather than leave that task to others. I have been listening to Mona going back to her early appearances on the McLaughlin Group and will always respect Jay’s coverage of the arts, but things don’t have to be this out of balance.

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    • April 28, 2018, at 3:47 PM PDT
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  7. George Townsend Inactive

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    I really like Mona and Jay, but more and more I feel like I am listening to MSNBC. I am no fan of Trump, but he is the president and I deal with that by doing what Ben Shapiro calls “calling balls and strikes.” The example of the Comey book and the different take, vis a vis, Mona and Podhoretz Strikes me as an example of Mona going to the opposite extreme of those who find nothing wrong with anything Trump does by finding nothing he does acceptable or positive, and anyone who opposes him as being automatically credible and acceptable.

    I used to really enjoy the podcast, but it seems to be a continuum of bashing Trump, a mirror image the Harvard Lunch Club podcast which I stopped listening to a while back. Mona and Jay are both brilliant conservatives whose ideas I have always treasured, but this podcast has become a very narrow and unpleasant commentary on all things anti-Trump. It is monotonal and negative, nothing like it used to be. It is time to move on to topics that are uplifting and optimistic and get off the endless rant against the vulgarian tendencies of Trump.

    It would take a full-blown post to try and deal with ramifications of this. Please allow me two observations?…..

    I can’t take The Harvard Lunch Club either. I like fun as much as anyone, but can do without their sort of silliness. And the relentless defense of anything does made me tune out a long time ago.

    Mona and Jay are a different matter. They not only deal with several different topics, and sometimes do not even mention Trump, but having followed Mona’s career for thirty years, and having met he once, I have a soft spot for the lady and the indefatigable ways. I also understand her. She is really upset that a man like Trump is now at the pinnacle of the greatest country this world has ever seen. As with me, she loves our land, and has tried her best for forty years or so to point it in the direction she see as the right one (pun intended). As with me, she sees that too many people have succumbed to the Trumpian vulgarities, and she wants to try and stop it before it goes to far. I know this turns off many who even agree mostly with her. But it does not turn me off. What seems repetitive to some is to me a constant reminder that we can and need to do better.

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    • April 28, 2018, at 4:15 PM PDT
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  8. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    I really like Mona and Jay, but more and more I feel like I am listening to MSNBC. I am no fan of Trump, but he is the president and I deal with that by doing what Ben Shapiro calls “calling balls and strikes.” The example of the Comey book and the different take, vis a vis, Mona and Podhoretz Strikes me as an example of Mona going to the opposite extreme of those who find nothing wrong with anything Trump does by finding nothing he does acceptable or positive, and anyone who opposes him as being automatically credible and acceptable.

    I used to really enjoy the podcast, but it seems to be a continuum of bashing Trump, a mirror image the Harvard Lunch Club podcast which I stopped listening to a while back. Mona and Jay are both brilliant conservatives whose ideas I have always treasured, but this podcast has become a very narrow and unpleasant commentary on all things anti-Trump. It is monotonal and negative, nothing like it used to be. It is time to move on to topics that are uplifting and optimistic and get off the endless rant against the vulgarian tendencies of Trump.

    Frankly I think we need conservatives to point out Trump’s vulgarities. Mona can go a little too far. For example when she has Ben Wittes on and nods away at him telling everyone to vote for democrats. Also when she praises Comey. Being against Trump doesn’t automatically make you worthy, especially when you support the likes of Hillary Clinton.

    I heartily agree about the Harvard Lunch Club. I tried to listen again and nearly threw up my breakfast when they described Trump as “endearing”.

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    • April 29, 2018, at 8:41 AM PDT
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  9. Eugene Kriegsmann Member

    I don’t disagree with Mona’s assessment of Trump’s vulgarity and the inappropriateness of his nomination for the presidency. But he was elected, and he defeated the just about worst possible candidate for president in my lifetime. I don’t know if Ted Cruz, my first choice, could have done that. Essentially, you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight. Defeating Hillary required something almost as bad as her. Trump met that bill. Now he is our president, and, overall, aside from his essential vulgarity, he isn’t doing that many awful things.Truthfully, it is really difficult to see his inadequacies amid the barrage of garbage from the leftists and their hounds in the media. I don’t think that anyone who defeated Hillary in 2016 would have been treated any differently, but Trump certainly is a prime target. He is also the best at dealing with that barrage of any Republican I have seen. It isn’t pretty, but war is never pretty, and this is war. And when we are at war continual carping from our own side doesn’t help the issue or the morale.

    I have to say it again, I really love Mona and Jay. They are wonderful people with terrific ideas. I would just rather hear them discussing something other than their distain for Trump on every podcast. The image of you nearly hurling your breakfast, @JuliaBlaschke, gave me a real laugh. 

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    • April 29, 2018, at 4:50 PM PDT
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  10. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):
    I don’t know if Ted Cruz, my first choice, could have done that. Essentially, you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.

    I think just about any of them would have beaten Hillary and several, including Cruz, would have won the popular vote also.

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    • April 29, 2018, at 6:13 PM PDT
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  11. George Townsend Inactive

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    I have to say it again, I really love Mona and Jay. They are wonderful people with terrific ideas. I would just rather hear them discussing something other than their distain for Trump on every podcast. The image of you nearly hurling your breakfast, @JuliaBlaschke, gave me a real laugh.

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):
    I don’t know if Ted Cruz, my first choice, could have done that. Essentially, you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.

    I think just about any of them would have beaten Hillary and several, including Cruz, would have won the popular vote also.

    I don’t know if Julia is right, Eugene, but it is certainly worth considering, instead of your casual dismissal of other candidates. As bad Hillary – and she certainly was among the words people ever to run for president – she did win the popular vote.

    I was so surprised to read the things you wrote. You sound Dennis Prager, with all his “War” talk. Who are the combatants? Even during the sixties, when we had real bombing and assassinations, we didn’t hear this talk of war. The Left has always been trouble. Sure, they are worse now, but why don’t you, Prager, and others mount a campaign to try and get our schools and universities to behave like the true citadels of learning they should be, instead of letting this jerk in Washington get away with bringing our whole culture down, as he fights with everyone, including Blue Star families? What has all this fighting gotten us?

    I would argue that Jimmy Carter left us a mess Reagan cleaned it up, and help to rid of the world of the Soviet Union in the process. And he managed to do with insulting those people he needed for his fight with the Left. We need some of that again, instead of some fool, who thinks that judges sign bills!

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    • April 30, 2018, at 3:01 AM PDT
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  12. filmklassik Member

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    I don’t disagree with Mona’s assessment of Trump’s vulgarity and the inappropriateness of his nomination for the presidency. But he was elected, and he defeated the just about worst possible candidate for president in my lifetime. I don’t know if Ted Cruz, my first choice, could have done that. Essentially, you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight. Defeating Hillary required something almost as bad as her. Trump met that bill. Now he is our president, and, overall, aside from his essential vulgarity, he isn’t doing that many awful things.Truthfully, it is really difficult to see his inadequacies amid the barrage of garbage from the leftists and their hounds in the media. I don’t think that anyone who defeated Hillary in 2016 would have been treated any differently, but Trump certainly is a prime target. He is also the best at dealing with that barrage of any Republican I have seen. It isn’t pretty, but war is never pretty, and this is war. And when we are at war continual carping from our own side doesn’t help the issue or the morale.

    I have to say it again, I really love Mona and Jay. They are wonderful people with terrific ideas. I would just rather hear them discussing something other than their distain for Trump on every podcast. The image of you nearly hurling your breakfast, @JuliaBlaschke, gave me a real laugh.

    Does Trump’s election mean we should turn a blind eye to his never-ending cavalcade of vulgarity, buffoonery, and idiocy? It does not. Such things need to be pointed out early and often. After all, the man is a jackass.

    BUT … that doesn’t mean we should stop pointing out the idiocy, and the danger, posed by an increasingly radicalized Left.

    It seems to me that Rob Long, James Lileks, John Podhoretz, Kevin Williamson, Charles Cook, and Jonah Goldberg have found just the right approach here: Call Trump and his minions out for the knuckle-dragging morons that they are … but don’t spare the Left, either.

    Would that Jay and Mona would adopt a similar approach.

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    • April 30, 2018, at 5:56 AM PDT
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  13. George Townsend Inactive

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    I don’t disagree with Mona’s assessment of Trump’s vulgarity and the inappropriateness of his nomination for the presidency. But he was elected, and he defeated the just about worst possible candidate for president in my lifetime. I don’t know if Ted Cruz, my first choice, could have done that. Essentially, you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight. Defeating Hillary required something almost as bad as her. Trump met that bill. Now he is our president, and, overall, aside from his essential vulgarity, he isn’t doing that many awful things.Truthfully, it is really difficult to see his inadequacies amid the barrage of garbage from the leftists and their hounds in the media. I don’t think that anyone who defeated Hillary in 2016 would have been treated any differently, but Trump certainly is a prime target. He is also the best at dealing with that barrage of any Republican I have seen. It isn’t pretty, but war is never pretty, and this is war. And when we are at war continual carping from our own side doesn’t help the issue or the morale.

    I have to say it again, I really love Mona and Jay. They are wonderful people with terrific ideas. I would just rather hear them discussing something other than their distain for Trump on every podcast. The image of you nearly hurling your breakfast, @JuliaBlaschke, gave me a real laugh.

    Does Trump’s election mean we should turn a blind eye to his never-ending cavalcade of vulgarity, buffoonery, and idiocy? It does not. Such things need to be pointed out early and often. After all, the man is a jackass.

    BUT … that doesn’t mean we should stop pointing out the idiocy, and the danger, posed by an increasingly radicalized Left.

    It seems to me that Rob Long, James Lileks, John Podhoretz, Kevin Williamson, Charles Cook, and Jonah Goldberg have found just the right approach here: Call Trump and his minions out for the knuckle-dragging morons that they are … but don’t spare the Left, either.

    Would that Jay and Mona would adopt a similar approach. which is all too common. 

    I completely agree with this. But I do think Mona and Jay have adopted this approach. I will concede that perhaps they lean a little too far sometimes in validating the concerns of the Trump critics, without closely enough questioning their motives. This comes to close to “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Jay’s remark about Comey didn’t help. I just think they are so upset about the coming of Trump, and what he might pressage for our movement, that they might err a little bit on my aforementioned approach to him.

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    • April 30, 2018, at 7:09 AM PDT
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  14. Joe D. Lincoln

    When you guys (or anyone else at Ricochet) mention books, movies, artists, etc – especially if you recommend them – you should really mention them in the show notes.

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    • April 30, 2018, at 1:01 PM PDT
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