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  1. Mrs. Ink Member
    Mrs. Ink

    Dear Editors,

    What has Mr. Trump done that is so terrible that Mr. Douthat thinks that he ought to be removed from office ?  I understand that you don’t like him, that you think he is rude, crude, and not fit for your society, but has he signed onto a “nuclear deal” with our sworn enemies, and sent them so much cash that it had to be loaded with a forklift, while not calling it a treaty so it was not subject to Senate review? Has he used federal agencies, which are forbidden by law from political action, to spy on and harass his political enemies? Has he micromanaged military operations to such an extent that planes return to base without striking their targets? Did he corrupt the Justice Department to favor one political candidate over another? Was Trump asleep when an American ambassador and three other employees of the U. S. government were killed? The former president did those things, and much more, and there was absolutely no push back from the media.

    President Trump fired James Comey, a policeman who serves at the pleasure of the president. Is this a police state, where an elected executive cannot fire one of his employees?  Mr. Comey overstepped his bounds by discussing Mrs. Clinton’s handling of classified material, and then he did not charge her with the crimes that she committed. There were preventable terrorist attacks on American citizens on American soil that occurred because his agents did not catch the perpetrators before they acted, despite warning signs.

    I take issue with Mr. Cooke’s statement that there is a conceit that Washington has enriched itself at the expense of the interior. That is not a conceit, but a fact. Washington D. C., and the people who inhabit it have enriched themselves and their friends and families at the expense of the rest of the citizens. The four richest counties in the United States are suburbs of Washington, D. C., in a country that contains Silicon Valley, Los Angeles, and New York City.

    There are politicians who are rich when they run for office. But many more politicians become rich while they are supposed to be serving their constituents. This is corruption on the grandest scale in the history of man, and I suspect that a great deal of criticism of Trump is because his voters used him to voice their displeasure. It isn’t really Trump that the Uniparty objects to, but to his voters, who had the nerve to  elect some one who isn’t  (yet) a member of the Uniparty club. Mr. Cooke is correct that the reaction to Trump’s removal by means of the 25th amendment would be dangerous. It might kick off, not a second American revolution, but a Russian or a French revolution.


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  2. FredGoodhue Coolidge

    Donald Trump does not talk or act like the “Washington establishment”.  This is why he was elected.  He’s not different now.  It’s not a case of stretching the 25th amendment; the 25th amendment just does not apply.  For the establishment to remove Trump, the elected president, would be an actual coup.  The consequences for the nation would be horrible.

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  3. Quinnie Member

    Why on earth is impeachment even a topic?   I felt like I was listening to an NPR podcast.   The main stream media creates a narrative and the National Review editors validate it.   Take a deep breath.   Focus on his policies and actions.   Stop treating every misstep like it’s logical conclusion is his removal from office.   We just had 8 years of horrific, lying leadership.   I can handle a few stupid tweets and clumsy actions.

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  4. Spiral Inactive

    Excellent podcast.  I particularly enjoyed the discussion of the 25th amendment and impeachment.

    It’s seems unlikely, at this point, that Trump will be removed from office by either the 25th amendment option or the impeachment option.  But I enjoyed the abstract arguments both in favor and against using those tools.

    Charles C. W. Cooke raised a good point about legitimacy.  If the 25th Amendment were to be used to remove Trump, even as Trump is capable of going on Hannity’s show and conducting an interview, this would lack legitimacy in the eyes of the public.

    Unless the public were extremely anxious to get rid of Trump and were happy to use any pretext available.

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  5. Spiral Inactive

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):
    Donald Trump does not talk or act like the “Washington establishment”. This is why he was elected. He’s not different now. It’s not a case of stretching the 25th amendment; the 25th amendment just does not apply. For the establishment to remove Trump, the elected president, would be an actual coup. The consequences for the nation would be horrible.

    It is certainly possible that the consequences for the nation would be horrible if Congress removed Trump from office using either the 25th amendment or the impeachment procedure.

    On the other hand, the public might quickly learn to appreciate the sobriety and stability of a President Mike Pence.

    Sure, you can say that the people elected Trump, not Pence.  Trump basically got elected because Hillary Clinton was so unpopular, not because Trump himself was affirmatively popular.

    Pence would allow Americans to relax and realize that someone with mental stability is in charge whereas Trump consistently reminds American that someone afflicted with neurotic insecurity is at the helm.

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