Reihan, Luke, Charlie, and Michael discuss Trump’s poor Helsinki performance, debate the sustainability of Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez as a candidate, and make the case for more creative political representation on all sides.

Editors’ picks:
• Reihan: Alexandra’s piece on the battle for Virginia.
• Luke: Kevin’s laceration of bad Shakespeare performances.
• Charlie: Liam Warner on Ocasio-Cortez .
• MBD: Douglas Murray on Merkel and Europe.

Light items:
• Reihan: Promotes the glories of EC Comics.
• Luke: Is watching the show Yellowstone on the Paramount Network.
• Charlie: Talks about his appearance on Political Beats.
• MBD: Talks about his appreciation for the Mission Impossible series of films.

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  1. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher

    I think you would all do well by reading the works of and listening to the smartest and wisest individual at NR: Victor Davis Hanson. 

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    • July 19, 2018, at 2:06 PM PDT
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  2. HeavyWater Coolidge

    Another fantastic podcast from the Editors of NR.

    Great commentary by everyone.

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    • July 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM PDT
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  3. Eugene Kriegsmann Member

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    I think you would all do well by reading the works of and listening to the smartest and wisest individual at NR: Victor Davis Hanson.

    I think that Dr. Hanson is extremely bright. I have read most of his books. However, when it comes to politics, and specifically Donald Trump, Dr. Hanson is not the last word. He is, unquesionably, a Trump partisan and has been pretty much from the beginning. Other people who I admire fit into the same mode, Andrew Klavan is another example. There is a great deal of logic to their arguments, but in most cases they are looking for logic in what is essentially an illogical behavior. One can create a marvelous image of the multidimensional chess game that Trump was playing on the stage with Putin in Helsinki. However, Occam’s Razor is a much more convincing scenario. By that standard, Trump’s naivete, his obvious awe of strong leaders, his lack of political experience in dealing with powerful people, and his essential cowardice and inablity to admit when he is wrong or needs someone more skilled than himself seem much more likely than a complex chess game. His behaviors are those of a classic school yard bully, a behavior his has displayed throughout his life. His deep insecutity is a much more logical explanation for his unwillingness to admit when he is wrong or feels the need to prevaricate about his “misspeaking.” As much as I admire Dr. Hanson, these gentlemen have a much clearer image of Trump as person than I have read anywhere in Dr Hanson’s offerings.

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    • July 19, 2018, at 3:50 PM PDT
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  4. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):
    As much as I admire Dr. Hanson, these gentlemen have a much clearer image of Trump as person than I have read anywhere in Dr Hanson’s offerings.

    Thank you for the reply to my comment. We can agree to disagree. It seems to me the world is full of Monday morning quarterbacks these days, myself included. 

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    • July 19, 2018, at 4:01 PM PDT
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  5. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    I think you would all do well by reading the works of and listening to the smartest and wisest individual at NR: Victor Davis Hanson.

    I think that Dr. Hanson is extremely bright. I have read most of his books. However, when it comes to politics, and specifically Donald Trump, Dr. Hanson is not the last word. He is, unquesionably, a Trump partisan and has been pretty much from the beginning. Other people who I admire fit into the same mode, Andrew Klavan is another example. There is a great deal of logic to their arguments, but in most cases they are looking for logic in what is essentially an illogical behavior. One can create a marvelous image of the multidimensional chess game that Trump was playing on the stage with Putin in Helsinki. However, Occam’s Razor is a much more convincing scenario. By that standard, Trump’s naivete, his obvious awe of strong leaders, his lack of political experience in dealing with powerful people, and his essential cowardice and inablity to admit when he is wrong or needs someone more skilled than himself seem much more likely than a complex chess game. His behaviors are those of a classic school yard bully, a behavior his has displayed throughout his life. His deep insecutity is a much more logical explanation for his unwillingness to admit when he is wrong or feels the need to prevaricate about his “misspeaking.” As much as I admire Dr. Hanson, these gentlemen have a much clearer image of Trump as person than I have read anywhere in Dr Hanson’s offerings.

    I think VDH may be over influenced by the problems with illegal aliens he experiences in California. It is understandable that he sees Trump as his savior given the lamentable conditions in his state. However, Trump is only a symptom of the problems and offers no solutions. I take no pleasure in seeing Trump being revealed on the world stage as the know nothing he is. It is truly frightening. I pray we can somehow work our way out of this and next time, vote like adults in the primaries. That goes for Democrats as well as Republicans.

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    • July 19, 2018, at 7:15 PM PDT
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  6. Leslie Watkins Inactive
    Leslie Watkins Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Wonderful conversation–even without Rich as DJ! Reihan did an excellent stand-in.

    I’m probably an errant human being for holding this view, but I’m an old Beat/hippie who has never trusted/liked the FBI or CIA* and do not see vocal criticisms of them–except by a president speaking overseas–as being unpatriotic or in the least bit treasonous or in any way reflecting poorly on America as a country. Trump hurt himself far more than he hurt me by what he said, despite where he said it. It’s just too bad he can’t rise above the obvious state-officials-oriented attempt to quash his presidency. I’m not sure he’s a coward. But he’s definitely afraid.

    *That said, the job of counter-espionage has always seemed incredibly cool to me.

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    • July 20, 2018, at 9:23 AM PDT
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  7. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):
    However, Trump is only a symptom of the problems and offers no solutions.

    Sometimes it only takes someone to point out the problems in order for the solutions to come. No president is expected to be a dictator.

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    • July 20, 2018, at 11:08 AM PDT
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  8. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):
    Sometimes it only takes someone to point out the problems in order for the solutions to come. 

    What you see as pointing out problems, I see as Trump riling up his base and dividing people with no real attempt to either shed light or solve any problems. Both sides do it. Trump just does it in a very vulgar way. I don’t mean the positive things that have come. They have come in spite of Trump and are actually coming from the “elites” in the GOP that Trumpers disparage. He deserves credit when he listens to them. I’m talking about the things near and dear to Trump’s heart like his misunderstanding of trade and tariffs and his pathetic attempts at diplomacy.

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):
    No president is expected to be a dictator.

    Indeed, which is why his “only I can fix” nonsense is particularly annoying. 

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    • July 20, 2018, at 11:20 AM PDT
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  9. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):
    Indeed, which is why his “only I can fix” nonsense is particularly annoying. 

    You and I will never agree, so I see no point in continuing other than to hurl accusations on each side , something I refuse to do. Good day to you.

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    • July 20, 2018, at 11:43 AM PDT
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