Kevin and Charlie discuss YouTube’s demonetization of Stephen Crowder and the future of the First Amendment.

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  1. RufusRJones Member

    That was really good.

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    • June 8, 2019, at 8:00 AM PST
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  2. Taras Coolidge

    Kevin and Charlie remind me of Mr. Spock in the old Star Trek. No matter how many times he encountered what he considered human irrationality, he never learned to take account of it in his own reasoning. 

    Over and over Kevin and Charlie point out the inconsistencies of progressive reasoning, as if progressives care whether their reasoning is consistent or not.

    They are utilitarians. They care whether or not an argument of a particular kind, on a particular date, and before a particular audience serves their goals or not. It makes perfect sense for them to fight for leftists’ freedom of speech, and then turn around and do everything they can to silence conservatives. 

    In William Hurrell Mallock’s 1908 A Critical Examination of Socialism, he describes debating a socialist before a middle-class audience. The socialist debater admitted that the Marxian labor theory of value was at best incomplete*, failing to account for the value of the management and direction of labor.

     After the debate, Mallock quietly followed the socialist to his next appearance, before an audience of socialist workers. And guess what: before that very different audience, the labor theory of value made a sudden comeback!

    *It’s actually mystical nonsense, but this comment is long enough already. 

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    • June 8, 2019, at 10:50 AM PST
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  3. RufusRJones Member

    Taras (View Comment):

    Over and over Kevin and Charlie point out the inconsistencies of progressive reasoning, as if progressives care whether their reasoning is consistent or not.

    They are utilitarians. They care whether or not an argument of a particular kind, on a particular date, and before a particular audience serves their goals or not. It makes perfect sense for them to fight for leftists’ freedom of speech, and then turn around and do everything they can to silence conservatives.

    I think this is accurate.

    I think the best example is, there isn’t one articulate gun grabber in Minnesota and Michael Bloomberg spends 100% of his money on elections here. He doesn’t spend a penny on media training for gun grabbers or on gun policy promotion. They want what they want, and they don’t give a damn about anything else, including not making sense.

    It’s more complicated, but you could say the same thing about healthcare. They are just trying to force single-payer.

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    • June 8, 2019, at 11:00 AM PST
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  4. RufusRJones Member

    i.e 

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    • June 8, 2019, at 12:04 PM PST
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  5. Tedley Member

    That was one heck of an admission that Charles got from that female student (23 minutes into the podcast). What will it take to make people who support the progressive position realize how pathetic they look? 

    Regarding Steven Crowder and his new t-shirts (not currently available on his store), this apparently isn’t as obvious as you characterized. During one of his shows this week, he and other staff said that the shirt actually says “Socialism is for figs.” It’s hard to tell from the graphic that I’ve seen, but it’s clear that the vowel in “fig” is hard to make out. Having said that, if someone typed “Socialism is for f*gs” into a post, many would assume that the asterisk is an “a”. It’s certainly a tweak of anyone who’s too sensitive, which includes the censors at Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

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  6. Fresch Fisch Member

    Both you guys need to go to South Dakota and pheasant hunt.

     

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    • June 9, 2019, at 4:01 PM PST
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  7. Allan Rutter Member

    Loved Kevin’s dismay at using “impact” as a verb, as if he had dropped an ice cream cone. One of my top 5 language peeves.

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    • June 9, 2019, at 4:30 PM PST
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  8. Joseph Stocks Member

    @tedley,

    When I heard Charles share his story about the woman saying she was weak I sadly was not surprised because I’ve experienced the same thing a few times.

    I just got out of the Army and I’d love to have political conservations with everyone and there were a few revealing conversations I had with some young black men. I would tell them that blacks can be as successful as anyone in a America and that literally millions of blacks are more successful than I am and its because of their hard work. And I would have this optimistic, hopeful tone about anybody being successful and they would tell me I was wrong and that blacks were too weak and couldn’t survive on their own (at that point I would tell them that this is what white supremacists sound like). I would joke with them that I believed in black people more than them. 

    It was sad to see how entrenched that victim mentality is in them. They can see millions of examples of success but still believe they are weak and need special help.

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    • June 10, 2019, at 7:59 AM PST
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