In this week’s episode of London Calling, James and Toby engage in a bit of throat-clearing about James’s meeting with Jason Miller, CEO of Gettr, then get to the main event – Putin’s invasion of Ukraine – which they disagree about. James is sceptical about the fact that so much of the MSM is “hot for war,” as he puts it, while Toby argues that the reason there is almost universal condemnation of Putin is because he has engaged in an unprovoked act of military aggression against an independent sovereign state and his forces are currently bombing civilians. James insists it’s “more complicated” than that and believes the political leader of Ukraine, as well as the leaders of the West, bear some responsibility for the crisis.

Then, in Culture Corner, James says how much he’s enjoying jeen-yuhs: A Kanye Trilogy (Netflix), while Toby continues to praise Pam and Tommy (Hulu), although he’s not convinced Pam is quite as innocent as she’s portrayed by Lilly James.

Opening sound this week is the PM’s statement on Ukraine.

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  1. OwnedByDogs Coolidge
    OwnedByDogs
    @JuliaBlaschke

    Yeah, going to give this one a big pass.

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  2. Duane Oyen Member
    Duane Oyen
    @DuaneOyen

    I like Toby, but James has become an isolationist Trump-worshiping anti-vax  isolationist bore who is a waste of time for thinking people.

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  3. Al Sparks Thatcher
    Al Sparks
    @AlSparks

    Interesting.  James, the conspiracy theorist, a vigorous one at that, has gone with the establishment on Ukraine.

    If Putin uses tactical nukes, it won’t be the end of the world, but it will affect Ukraine for generations.  But it will also be the end of Russia as we know it.

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  4. Al Sparks Thatcher
    Al Sparks
    @AlSparks

    On sound quality.  I was not one of those complaining about last episode, and found it acceptable, as long as it’s not a common occurrence.  Overall, the podcast has had good production values.

    But James’s assertion that just because the podcast is free that we shouldn’t complain about production values.

    Presumably, they do this so they can influence and entertain listeners.  If they lose listeners due to sound quality, something they happen to be good at, it goes against their purpose.

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  5. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    Al Sparks: Presumably, they do this so they can influence and entertain listeners.  If they lose listeners due to sound quality, something they happen to be good at, it goes against their purpose.

    People are always more effusive with their complaints than with their praise. It goes with the territory.

    When I first got into television I made a pledge to myself that I was always going to treat my audience with dignity and give them the respect that they deserved. And then I met them. Individually, most people are great. Collectively, they can be… well, something else. Most feel they are experts at media because they have consumed it their entire lives. In some ways they have elevated expectations, in others their collective judgment has been hit for six.

    If you’re older and remember the heyday of talk radio, last week’s show with James doing it from the streets of London the quality of his feed is a miracle of the age. If you have the mindset that media is media is media and that everyone has satellite trucks trailing their talent then you’re probably going to be disappointed.

    We are in the most perishable of media. The shelf life of what we do is only slightly longer than the shelf life of the sports business I left behind. I have been perusing our archives and, holy microphones, Batman(!) have we and the tech come a long way.

    Skype was a vast improvement over telephony. First, you no longer needed a audio mixing board the size of a drafting table to provide multiple mix-minus feeds. It was all done by software. But it was all a monaural mix, a higher quality of conference calling. Today, Zoom is just one of many services that provide clean individual tracks for postproduction. The best is a service that records all tracks locally and sends them to a common folder on the cloud. But that requires your guest to keep his or her computer on and connected to the internet until the process is complete. Not always a doable thing, that.

    And if you watch some of our Zoom feeds you’ll notice many more professional mics. I don’t know how many we’ve sent out, especially since the beginning of the pandemic.

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  6. VRWC Member
    VRWC
    @VRWC

    Yeah… James Delingpole has pretty much lost the plot here… you don’t have to be eager for war to see that Putin is the bad guy here… turned it off about 8 minutes in. I hope James gets a grip because he used to be not such a waste of my time.

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  7. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    Ricochet Audio Network: James is sceptical about the fact that so much of the MSM is “hot for war,” as he puts it, while Toby argues that the reason there is almost universal condemnation of Putin is because he has engaged in an unprovoked act of military aggression against an independent sovereign state and his forces are currently bombing civilians. James insists it’s “more complicated” than that and believes the political leader of Ukraine, as well as the leaders of the West, bear some responsibility for the crisis.

    I microcosm of Ricochet right here.

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  8. Architectus Coolidge
    Architectus
    @Architectus

    Duane Oyen (View Comment):

    I like Toby, but James has become an isolationist Trump-worshiping anti-vax isolationist bore who is a waste of time for thinking people.

    Oh, you must have missed that episode where James now believes that Trump’s election was also all part of the Great Reset plan also, and controlled by the hidden masters.  ;-)

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  9. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    Architectus : Oh, you must have missed that episode…

    It’s like Real Housewives of Rural England. Don’t miss an episode and then expect to be caught up on all plot lines!

     

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  10. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Architectus : Oh, you must have missed that episode…

    It’s like Real Housewives of Rural England. Don’t miss an episode and then expect to be caught up on all plot lines!

    You mean, Real Househusbands of Rural England.

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  11. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Architectus (View Comment):

    Duane Oyen (View Comment):

    I like Toby, but James has become an isolationist Trump-worshiping anti-vax isolationist bore who is a waste of time for thinking people.

    Oh, you must have missed that episode where James now believes that Trump’s election was also all part of the Great Reset plan also, and controlled by the hidden masters. ;-)

    In previous episodes, James expressed his disillusionment in Donald Trump when Trump urged people to get vaccinated.  The vaccine, remember, was part of a conspiracy to reduce the world population by killing millions of people.

    Of course James doesn’t talk about that particular conspiracy theory any more; and Toby has too much affection for James to crush him in argumentation by pointing out the absurd predictions he had made.

    You’ll note how often James cuts off the argument, and says that they will never agree on some point or other.

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  12. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    Taras: Of course James doesn’t talk about that particular conspiracy theory any more…

    Let me assure you that James has not changed his mind. It’s just not particularly entertaining or productive to say the same thing week after week.

     

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  13. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Taras: Of course James doesn’t talk about that particular conspiracy theory any more…

    Let me assure you that James has not changed his mind. It’s just not particularly entertaining or productive to say the same thing week after week.

    I’ve been listening to this podcast for several years and one thing I’m sure of is that James has no problem whatsoever saying the same thing week after week after week!

    What is going on here, I think, is ego protection.

    In his heart of hearts, James may believe that his predicted vaccine holocaust has merely been postponed, but he is also aware enough to realize that talking about it makes him sound like a fool.

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