The Blue Team is back for their last bit of Dresden discussion for a while. Todd, Megan, and Kenn cut the last Dresden episode off a bit abruptly because they wanted to give [redacted]’s death in this book more than a cursory five-minute treatment. So that’s what this episode is all about. Enjoy!

 

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  1. Arahant Member
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    Different series, different author, different genre, and very different characters, but I used to read Vince Flynn’s Mitch Rapp novels. I stopped bothering because I thought they were too predictable. The point that drove me there was the one where Mitch got married. It was obvious that happily-married Mitch was not going to perform well as the CIA killer, so the only thing Flynn could do was to kill off the new wife, and he did.

    That is what the discussion of Murphy’s death reminded me of. I could be way off on that. I haven’t read any of Butcher’s books, and I am unlikely to. I have too much of my own stuff to write, and when it comes to fantasy, and am even writing a novel serially here on Ricochet. So, again, no expert on the Dresden files, but the discussion, especially when Todd, I think it was, was talking about seeing how Butcher was using it, reminded me of Mrs. Rapp’s death.

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  2. HankMorgan Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Different series, different author, different genre, and very different characters, but I used to read Vince Flynn’s Mitch Rapp novels. I stopped bothering because I thought they were too predictable. The point that drove me there was the one where Mitch got married. It was obvious that happily-married Mitch was not going to perform well as the CIA killer, so the only thing Flynn could do was to kill off the new wife, and he did.

    That is what the discussion of Murphy’s death reminded me of. I could be way off on that. I haven’t read any of Butcher’s books, and I am unlikely to. I have too much of my own stuff to write, and when it comes to fantasy, and am even writing a novel serially here on Ricochet. So, again, no expert on the Dresden files, but the discussion, especially when Todd, I think it was, was talking about seeing how Butcher was using it, reminded me of Mrs. Rapp’s death.

    This was more consequences catching up finally. Murphy was a normal who survived 15 books of Hurricane Dresden action and many people on the reddit were getting pretty twitchy that she lasted this long so close to the action. The consensus was that she either needed some kind of supernatural upgrade or she had to die, and really the story could have worked out either way but the plot armor wasn’t cutting it anymore. The previous book had crippled her and some had thought it might make a graceful exit from the action (like what happened to Michael) for her to be with Dresden, but her personality wouldn’t allow for her sitting on the sidelines so it was upgrade or death. At this point there is no obvious reason why it had to be death and most people were assuming an upgrade was coming.

    This was some peoples’ favorite character in the series, one who had been there from the first chapter. One person I know cried for a few days when she got to the death and couldn’t pick the book back up to continue for well over a week.

    As for relationships, by the end of the book Dresden was forced into a shotgun engagement. There’s no particular reason he can’t be married, though the overall storyline might require the new pairing. No way to know yet, but I suspect any pairing will be incidental to the overall plot.

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  3. Arahant Member
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    HankMorgan (View Comment):
    This was some peoples’ favorite character in the series, one who had been there from the first chapter. One person I know cried for a few days when she got to the death and couldn’t pick the book back up to continue for well over a week.

    Sometimes an author has to do that. I understand. Again, I’m not saying it is the same thing as Mrs. Rapp’s death at all. As an author, characters need to have arcs. Sometimes those arcs have to end in death. Sometimes it is a heroic death. Sometimes it’s a stupid death. God knows that as an author, I’m a mass murderer.

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  4. HankMorgan Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    HankMorgan (View Comment):
    This was some peoples’ favorite character in the series, one who had been there from the first chapter. One person I know cried for a few days when she got to the death and couldn’t pick the book back up to continue for well over a week.

    Sometimes an author has to do that. I understand. Again, I’m not saying it is the same thing as Mrs. Rapp’s death at all. As an author, characters need to have arcs. Sometimes those arcs have to end in death. Sometimes it is a heroic death. Sometimes it’s a stupid death. God knows that as an author, I’m a mass murderer.

    Yep, the stakes mean nothing when people can’t die. This definitely re-established the threat of death for all the characters.

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