For Whom The Cancel Culture Tolls

How can you protect yourself—and your family—from the mob? How can we help make our society a healthier place and finally begin to cancel “cancel culture?” Two ladybrains with a little experience dealing with online rage mobs—Bethany Mandel and Lyndsey Fifield—give their best advice and insights on how they think we can finally stop doxx mobs.

 

Notes:

Speak-Easy with Antonia Okafur and Shermichael Singleton:
http://ricochet.com/podcast/speak-easy

What It’s Like to Get Doxxed:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/what-its-like-to-get-doxed-for-taking-a-bike-ride.html

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  1. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    As someone who wrote a long post about how the mob came from me, as you dropped this episode a center-right tweeter warned someone was looking to cancel people and to lock our accounts. My burner account went in, found a tweet with problematic wording, and as she was implying another center-right personality might be racist I went in and dropped the bomb.

    I was accused of doctoring the tweet, so I posted the link. The smug condescension evaporated.

    She of course apologized for using the term, but I had to twist her arm to apologize for calling me a liar.

    Still wanted to appease the mob first.

    I legit feel bad about doing that in some ways, because I know how it feels when it’s unfair or in bad faith. But I also realized to get the people acting in bad faith to stop, you have to apply the same tactics. I haven’t asked for the person’s job I’m not spreading the tweet to everyone, but I’m going to keep on eye on her. She can delete the tweet but I have receipts.

    It’s not Christian of me. I know that. I’ve questioned whether or not to apologize for being the kind of person I hate. I basically told her to stop engaging in this kind of behavior instead of making her feel bad for it.

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    • June 18, 2020, at 6:57 PM PDT
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  2. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    As someone who wrote a long post about how the mob came from me, as you dropped this episode a center-right tweeter warned someone was looking to cancel people and to lock our accounts. My burner account went in, found a tweet with problematic wording, and as she was implying another center-right personality might be racist I went in and dropped the bomb.

    I was accused of doctoring the tweet, so I posted the link. The smug condescension evaporated.

    She of course apologized for using the term, but I had to twist her arm to apologize for calling me a liar.

    Still wanted to appease the mob first.

    Sorry Jeff, I’m the slow kid at the back of the class. I don’t really understand what happened. How many people were involved and what’s a burner account? An anonymous one? What was the bomb?

     

     

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    • June 19, 2020, at 2:10 AM PDT
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  3. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge

    *Edited duplicate post

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    • June 19, 2020, at 2:10 AM PDT
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  4. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    Marjorie Reynolds (View Comment):

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    As someone who wrote a long post about how the mob came from me, as you dropped this episode a center-right tweeter warned someone was looking to cancel people and to lock our accounts. My burner account went in, found a tweet with problematic wording, and as she was implying another center-right personality might be racist I went in and dropped the bomb.

    I was accused of doctoring the tweet, so I posted the link. The smug condescension evaporated.

    She of course apologized for using the term, but I had to twist her arm to apologize for calling me a liar.

    Still wanted to appease the mob first.

    Sorry Jeff, I’m the slow kid at the back of the class. I don’t really understand what happened. How many people were involved and what’s a burner account? An anonymous one? What was the bomb?

    No problem.

    “Burner account”- I have a twitter under a pseudonym to talk politics because people have tried to cancel me 

    Two people involved, both blue checkmarks. One was getting on the other implying racism when it came to fighting cancel culture and asking very loaded questions in the bad faith vein of “if you never use that kind of language why do you need to worry.”

    I went into her tweets to find an epithet for homosexuality she had used in jest about 6 years ago. I knew it was in jest but I presented it in the same, as in bad faith. She accused me of doctoring the tweet, so I gave her a link. She then started apologizing and saying “she’s changed”

    It was a nice little life lesson that I hope takes. 

     

     

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    • June 19, 2020, at 11:06 AM PDT
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  5. kylez Member
    kylezJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Why not get off this stupid website?

    (Twitter, that is)

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    • June 20, 2020, at 4:37 PM PDT
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  6. colleenb Member
    colleenbJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Congrats ladies on the Instapundit link.

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    • June 23, 2020, at 7:00 PM PDT
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  7. Charlotte Member
    CharlotteJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    kylez (View Comment):

    Why not get off this stupid website?

    (Twitter, that is)

    Yeah, this is sort of where I come down too, although I give Bethany a lot of credit for not backing down and not apologizing. I think she’s right that that’s how to make the mob redirect away from you.

    But the excruciating minutiae of likes and retweets and blue check marks and the rest of the whole social media maelstrom just makes me ask why are we doing this??

    I guess I am officially an old person.

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    • June 27, 2020, at 1:40 PM PDT
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  8. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge

    I remember being surprised when I first saw journalists using Twitter in news reports. It gave an elevated status to social media which it never should have. To me social media that time was for poking people on facebook and Stephen Fry getting stuck in a lift and amusing us all. 

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    • June 27, 2020, at 1:48 PM PDT
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  9. Lyndsey Fifield Contributor

    colleenb (View Comment):

    Congrats ladies on the Instapundit link.

    We totally missed this!!!

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    • September 23, 2020, at 4:14 PM PDT
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