Republican: Civil War

This week, The Conservatarians — aka, Ricochet Editor-in-Chief Jon Gabriel and Heatstreet contributor Stephen Miller — talk about Hillary’s WikiLeaks headache, Trump’s implosion, and the third party chances at taking a state or two.

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  1. Austin Murrey Inactive

    Was this EJ Hill’s work?

    Well, whoever did this: you made Paul Ryan the egomaniacal billionaire and Donald Trump the all-American humble hero whose superpower is being fit .

    Bad photoshopper.

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    • October 13, 2016, at 9:33 AM PDT
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  2. Could Be Anyone Member

    Austin Murrey:Was this EJ Hill’s work?

    Well, whoever did this: you made Paul Ryan the egomaniacal billionaire and Donald Trump the all-American humble hero whose superpower is being fit .

    Bad photoshopper.

    I thought the same. However, it could be that the photoshopper was trying to make a link between establishment and hero by placing trump as Captain America and Paul Ryan as Iron Man.

    • #2
    • October 13, 2016, at 9:41 AM PDT
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  3. Jon Gabriel, Ed. King

    Austin Murrey:Was this EJ Hill’s work?

    Well, whoever did this: you made Paul Ryan the egomaniacal billionaire and Donald Trump the all-American humble hero whose superpower is being fit .

    Bad photoshopper.

    You work with the Google Image search results you get. :(

    (And I did it, btw.)

    • #3
    • October 13, 2016, at 9:43 AM PDT
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  4. Austin Murrey Inactive

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.:

    Austin Murrey:Was this EJ Hill’s work?

    Well, whoever did this: you made Paul Ryan the egomaniacal billionaire and Donald Trump the all-American humble hero whose superpower is being fit .

    Bad photoshopper.

    You work with the Google Image search results you get.

    (And I did it, btw.)

    I’m judging you! Your hip street cred’s on thin ice @exjon :)

    • #4
    • October 13, 2016, at 9:47 AM PDT
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  5. Jon Gabriel, Ed. King

    Austin Murrey: I’m judging you! Your hip street cred’s on thin ice @exjon

    But Tony Stark is the COOL one!

    • #5
    • October 13, 2016, at 9:50 AM PDT
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  6. Kozak Member
    Kozak Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.:

    Austin Murrey: I’m judging you! Your hip street cred’s on thin ice @exjon

    But Tony Stark is the COOL one!

    You didn’t watch the movie did you?

    • #6
    • October 13, 2016, at 9:52 AM PDT
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  7. Austin Murrey Inactive

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.:

    Austin Murrey: I’m judging you! Your hip street cred’s on thin ice @exjon

    But Tony Stark is the COOL one!

    #TeamCap forever.

    • #7
    • October 13, 2016, at 9:53 AM PDT
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  8. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Austin Murrey: Was this EJ Hill’s work?

    It’s all Jon.

    It’s why I need food tasters when we’re in the same room.

    • #8
    • October 13, 2016, at 10:37 AM PDT
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  9. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I am, and always shall be, an Iron Man fan.

    I too think they men were on the wrong sides.

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    • October 13, 2016, at 11:53 AM PDT
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  10. Grosseteste Member

    That’s too bad about Death Cab. I’m remembing my “oh, come onnnn” feeling from when John Flansburgh of TMBG (my favorite band) organized a fundraising CD for moveon.org, which also served to establish the liberal bona fides of some other artists who hadn’t made that a centerpiece of their work (including Death Cab).

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    • October 13, 2016, at 1:52 PM PDT
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  11. Kim K. Member
    Kim K. Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Dear Stephen,

    Please give Jon more time to talk.

    Thanks.

    • #11
    • October 13, 2016, at 2:29 PM PDT
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  12. Dick from Brooklyn Thatcher
    Dick from Brooklyn Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    El Exigente (the demanding one) no longer approves of Death Cab – and the Ricochetti are happy!

    screen-shot-2016-10-14-at-9-23-03-am

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    • October 14, 2016, at 6:25 AM PDT
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  13. The Question Inactive

    I think that was a brilliant point about voters wanting to see Trump blast Hillary in the debate, at the cost of nominating a losing candidate. That’s the best explanation of Trump’s nomination that I’ve heard so far. Marco Rubio likely would have won, but probably would have been gentler in the debate.

    Also, alas, I think you are likely right that if the House picks the president, they probably would pick Trump over McMullin. I hadn’t thought about it that way, but now that you’ve said it, I’d say you’re probably right.

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    • October 14, 2016, at 9:48 AM PDT
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  14. Austin Murrey Inactive

    The Question: Marco Rubio likely would have won, but probably would have been gentler in the debate.

    I continue to question this assertion since he already lost to a totalitarian, scandal-riden sextaganarian with historically high negatives and a shaky grasp on policy based solely on media support. And Hillary actually has a campaign infrastructure on top of that.

    Admittedly, the speed boat memes would have been great.

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    • October 14, 2016, at 9:51 AM PDT
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  15. The Question Inactive

    Austin Murrey:

    The Question: Marco Rubio likely would have won, but probably would have been gentler in the debate.

    I continue to question this assertion since he already lost to a totalitarian, scandal-riden sextaganarian with historically high negatives and a shaky grasp on policy based solely on media support. And Hillary actually has a campaign infrastructure on top of that.

    Admittedly, the speed boat memes would have been great.

    I was a Cruz supporter. I was just figuring that Rubio would probably be less confrontational, if he were the nominee. I don’t think he’d be tanking due to an Access Hollywood video.

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    • October 14, 2016, at 10:01 AM PDT
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  16. The Question Inactive

    One quibble, you assert the the RNC is too old and needs to be cleaned out. Reince Priebus is only 44.

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    • October 14, 2016, at 10:02 AM PDT
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  17. Austin Murrey Inactive

    The Question:

    I was a Cruz supporter. I was just figuring that Rubio would probably be less confrontational, if he were the nominee. I don’t think he’d be tanking due to an Access Hollywood video.

    We don’t know what really happened on that boat – maybe he fished with…LIVE BAIT!

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    • October 14, 2016, at 10:16 AM PDT
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  18. Could Be Anyone Member

    Austin Murrey:

    The Question:

    I was a Cruz supporter. I was just figuring that Rubio would probably be less confrontational, if he were the nominee. I don’t think he’d be tanking due to an Access Hollywood video.

    We don’t know what really happened on that boat – maybe he fished with…LIVE BAIT!

    Old cankles probably couldn’t have afforded that massive yatch/fish boat after she and Bill were broke after leaving the white house ya know. Let me tell ya about Rubio’s Cuban Privilege…

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    • October 14, 2016, at 9:20 PM PDT
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  19. The Cynthonian Member
    1.  Jon, would you please talk louder or turn up your mike or something? Even at max volume, sometimes your voice just fades. Stephen, on the other hand, is crystal clear. I have this problem consistently with this podcast.
    2. Stephen, what was that about “getting rid” of everyone in the GOP over 45? I realize you use some hyperbole, but if the GOP loses VOTERS over 45, it’s non-existent. Did you mean leadership? Well…..youth and inexperience ain’t all it’s cracked up to be (see @The Question’s point above).
    3.  Jon, whatever you said about the AZ GOP was swallowed up. Note, however, that other than that nasty period with Napolitano, AZ state legislature (both houses), governor, and other statewide offices are pretty solid, and have been for quite awhile. McCain and Flake both drive me crazy regularly, but eventually I hope they’ll be replaced by more consistent conservatives. All in all, I’d take it over a lot of other states. In fact, I plan to….in a few more years.
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    • October 15, 2016, at 6:54 AM PDT
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  20. Crazy Horse Inactive

    Wow, I never have been jealous of Trump’s achievements until he managed to attain my life long goal of being personally hated by Death Cab For Cutie.

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    • October 18, 2016, at 10:45 PM PDT
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  21. Austin Murrey Inactive

    JLocked:Wow, I never have been jealous of Trump’s achievements until he managed to attain my life long goal of being personally hated by Death Cab For Cutie.

    Everytime you think you’re not going to vote for him, he pulls you back in!

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    • October 19, 2016, at 5:11 AM PDT
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