October Surprise Party

This week, The Conservatarians — aka, Ricochet Editor-in-Chief Jon Gabriel and Heatstreet contributor Stephen Miller — talk about Hillary’s new email headaches, Obamacare’s implosion, and Stephen’s adventures in Trump country.

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  1. Kim K. Inactive
    Kim K.
    @KimK

    Okay, I’ve only listened to the first 10 minutes or so but, good grief, can Stephen Miller be any more condescending to rural voters. Calling them “salt of the earth” folk who he can’t wait to “go the way of the dodo” who noticed that he was wearing in iWatch but “didn’t think he was 3CPO.” I’m sure they appreciated him helpfully explaining how polling works, since they are probably still using outhouses and making clothes out of flour sacks and haven’t heard of that new-fangled do-hickey called the internet. Heck, they probably still use TV’s with rabbit ears.

    Maybe I’m over-sensitive because I come from a long line of salt of the earth rural folk. In fact, I grew up on an actual farm – with cows and pigs and everything!! Listening to people on the coasts talk about people in the middle of the country as if they are stuck in the last century- not to say STUPID- is getting very old.

    I’ve been critical of Stephen Miller on this podcast because he’s a microphone hog and I want to hear more from Jon. This episode may be the last nail in the coffin for me.

     

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  2. The King Prawn Inactive
    The King Prawn
    @TheKingPrawn

    Kim K.: Listening to people on the coasts talk about people in the middle of the country as if they are stuck in the last century- not to say STUPID- is getting very old.

    You forgot fat. We’re fat too.

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  3. Spiral9399 Inactive
    Spiral9399
    @HeavyWater

    You conservatarians made an excellent point about how these  Trump voters “don’t care” and just want to present the middle finger.  If they actually cared about solving problems, they wouldn’t have supported in the primary the one person who can not defeat Hillary Clinton.

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  4. ModEcon Inactive
    ModEcon
    @ModEcon

    Spiral9399: You conservatarians made an excellent point about how these Trump voters “don’t care” and just want to present the middle finger. If they actually cared about solving problems, they wouldn’t have supported in the primary the one person who can not defeat Hillary Clinton.

    How would any of those uneducated people who need to be told about polling know that Trump was the “only candidate” who, despite being a front runner in the primary polls, could not beat Hillary?

    But seriously, I really don’t like the rhetoric about how “wrong” the small town people are and the inevitability of the city folk ruling everything. First, I don’t think that everybody could become experts in political theory. Not everybody is an academic. Second, the idea that the rural population can’t be concerned and vote with their important issues if the pundits don’t agree is just maddening. Third, I am concerned because some people seem to think that more people should live in dense cities, which totally discredits the country, small town lifestyle and I don’t think that is healthy. Finally, the idea that people need to accept people from wherever is not just to me. I have seen evidence that the Fed has forced small communities to except relatively large populations of foreigners without consent, this is not good governance.  To burden a small town with assimilating refugees or immigrants by government fiat is wrong and the communities are justified in resisting.

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  5. Mister D Inactive
    Mister D
    @MisterD

    Eldred? Milford? Crap in a hat you must have driven through Port Jervis at some point. Why didn’t you let me know? I would have got you a beer.

    And yes, this is Very Trump country. I know these people – he’s describing Eldred more than Milford which is more yuppie territory- and he’s not far off.

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  6. Penfold Member
    Penfold
    @Penfold

    Us hicks in the sticks sure is lucky we got us a Mr. Miller to set us straight.  Thank you.  Now where is that canned dodo sandwich I was a-munchin on?

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  7. Turn MD Red Inactive
    Turn MD Red
    @TurnMDRed

    I started out as #NeverTrump (even resigned from my county’s Republican Central Committee when it became apparent he was going to win the nomination). Gradually and oh-so reluctantly I have come to the point where I felt I had no choice but to vote against Hillary by marking my ballot for Trump.

    Neither Johnson nor McMullin or any other write in candidate can keep her out of the White House.

    At some point during the podcast Stephen refers to the cleanup that his generation will have to deal with and he was referring to the nation, not the GOP.

    My question for Stephen is “Do you really think the cleanup will be easier after FOUR or EIGHT more years of a corrupt hard left administration?”

     

     

     

     

     

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  8. Annefy Member
    Annefy
    @Annefy

    Kim K.:Okay, I’ve only listened to the first 10 minutes or so but, good grief, can Stephen Miller be any more condescending to rural voters. Calling them “salt of the earth” folk who he can’t wait to “go the way of the dodo” who noticed that he was wearing in iWatch but “didn’t think he was 3CPO.” I’m sure they appreciated him helpfully explaining how polling works, since they are probably still using outhouses and making clothes out of flour sacks and haven’t heard of that new-fangled do-hickey called the internet. Heck, they probably still use TV’s with rabbit ears.

    Maybe I’m over-sensitive because I come from a long line of salt of the earth rural folk. In fact, I grew up on an actual farm – with cows and pigs and everything!! Listening to people on the coasts talk about people in the middle of the country as if they are stuck in the last century- not to say STUPID- is getting very old.

    -twit

    I’m 10 minutes in also and I think I will be turning it off. I’ve got quarter end paperwork today and was looking for something to keep me company.

    What a condescending twit.

    And how very generous him to explain “polling” and “voting” to the great unwashed.

    I’m done.

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