Harassing Turkeys

Jon Gabriel (@ExJon) and Stephen Miller (@RedSteeze) discuss the latest slew of sexual harassers, Trump’s overly lenient turkey pardon, and a deep dive into Zimbabwean politics.

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  1. Hugh Member

    Gents,

    I am a big fan of the podcast but I have to admit I was appalled by your treatment of the political situation in Zimbabwe. The people of that country, including some of my family, have suffered greatly over the past 37 years. I understand that the sudden downfall is completely farcical in its own way but the suffering of the people continues. A little better preparation by you prior to discussing this topic would have been appreciated. there is so much (dare I say) fake news about the country and its history and I think now would have been a good time to speak some truths about the situation there.

    Consider yourselves chastised.

    Enjoy the podcast

    Hugh

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    • November 21, 2017, at 6:23 PM PST
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  2. Jon Gabriel, Ed. King

    Hugh (View Comment):
    Gents,

    I am a big fan of the podcast but I have to admit I was appalled by your treatment of the political situation in Zimbabwe. The people of that country, including some of my family, have suffered greatly over the past 37 years. I understand that the sudden downfall is completely farcical in its own way but the suffering of the people continues. A little better preparation by you prior to discussing this topic would have been appreciated. there is so much (dare I say) fake news about the country and its history and I think now would have been a good time to speak some truths about the situation there.

    Consider yourselves chastised.

    Enjoy the podcast

    Hugh

    Thanks for the polite chastisement, Hugh. The joke, which may not have translated well, was how uninformed the US media in general is about other parts of the world. Before recording, I told Stephen that since I read two BBC stories when the military first moved into Harare, I knew more than most of the talking head “experts” yammering about it on cable news.

    The joke was intended to be at my expense, not the long-suffering people of Zimbabwe who have truly lived through hell on earth.

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    • November 21, 2017, at 7:22 PM PST
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  3. Patrick McClure Coolidge

    Good podcast, until you equate stupid male locker room bragging, Trump’s grab them by their genitalia remark, with actual sexual harassment, like Conyers or Franken. No, you don’t have to be a Trump fan to acknowledge the difference.

    • #3
    • November 22, 2017, at 5:53 AM PST
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  4. Patrick McClure Coolidge

    I should add I was glad you didn’t equate Trump’s remark to Clinton’s sexual crimes.

    • #4
    • November 22, 2017, at 5:55 AM PST
    • 1 like
  5. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):
    Good podcast, until you equate stupid male locker room bragging, Trump’s grab them by their genitalia remark, with actual sexual harassment, like Conyers or Franken. No, you don’t have to be a Trump fan to acknowledge the difference.

    I am amazed you think Trump was just bragging.

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    • November 22, 2017, at 9:32 AM PST
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  6. KevinSchurig Coolidge

    My youngest daughter is very much like your 8th grader.(Mine is in the 7th) She wanted to learn to draw, she did. Far surpasses Dad’s stick figures. She began to teach herself Japanese, but not being able to converse with others has been a stumbling block. She is taking a course in guitar(allowed only one semester) and has decided to continue with it afterwards. But the big one is when she auditioned for a solo in the schools choir homage to Broadway. She got the gig, but the teacher chose to put her on another song than the one she wanted, and it was at the end. As her part comes up, they have the lights off, I can see her walking on the stage, nervously rubbing one arm. And then she hits it out of the park. She didn’t forget any of the song and just as important, her voice never cracked. She stayed on key and was never short of breath. Proud doesn’t do what I felt justice for I never could have done that and I still get chocked up when I think of the performance.

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    • November 22, 2017, at 11:25 AM PST
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  7. Jon Gabriel, Ed. King

    KevinSchurig (View Comment):
    My youngest daughter is very much like your 8th grader.(Mine is in the 7th) She wanted to learn to draw, she did. Far surpasses Dad’s stick figures. She began to teach herself Japanese, but not being able to converse with others has been a stumbling block. She is taking a course in guitar(allowed only one semester) and has decided to continue with it afterwards. But the big one is when she auditioned for a solo in the schools choir homage to Broadway. She got the gig, but the teacher chose to put her on another song than the one she wanted, and it was at the end. As her part comes up, they have the lights off, I can see her walking on the stage, nervously rubbing one arm. And then she hits it out of the park. She didn’t forget any of the song and just as important, her voice never cracked. She stayed on key and was never short of breath. Proud doesn’t do what I felt justice for I never could have done that and I still get chocked up when I think of the performance.

    The funny thing about my 8th grader is she loathes school. She hates all the structure and the boring lessons. Then she goes on Christmas break and creates elaborate Power Points for the family about different subjects she cares about.

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    • November 22, 2017, at 11:56 AM PST
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  8. Hugh Member

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    KevinSchurig (View Comment):
    My youngest daughter is very much like your 8th grader.(Mine is in the 7th) She wanted to learn to draw, she did. Far surpasses Dad’s stick figures. She began to teach herself Japanese, but not being able to converse with others has been a stumbling block. She is taking a course in guitar(allowed only one semester) and has decided to continue with it afterwards. But the big one is when she auditioned for a solo in the schools choir homage to Broadway. She got the gig, but the teacher chose to put her on another song than the one she wanted, and it was at the end. As her part comes up, they have the lights off, I can see her walking on the stage, nervously rubbing one arm. And then she hits it out of the park. She didn’t forget any of the song and just as important, her voice never cracked. She stayed on key and was never short of breath. Proud doesn’t do what I felt justice for I never could have done that and I still get chocked up when I think of the performance.

    The funny thing about my 8th grader is she loathes school. She hates all the structure and the boring lessons. Then she goes on Christmas break and creates elaborate Power Points for the family about different subjects she cares about.

    You want to be lining up a good college for her right away. Sounds like she is waaaaaaay ahead of the curve.

    • #8
    • November 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM PST
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