Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is, in many ways, a more polished version of Donald Trump. Blunt and outspoken, he has never been shy about engaging in political pugilistics. In this interview he takes on Trump’s post-election behavior, the Biden Administration and his own future and how that intertwines with that of his party and his country.

This interview took place on September 23, 2021 as part of the Texas Tribune Festival and we thank them for allowing us to present it here as part of this series.

 

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  1. Gary Robbins Reagan
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    This is a great interview.

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  2. Stad Coolidge
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    Okay, I did not listen to this podcast.  Nonetheless, I have to take issue with the description.  In no way is Christie “a more polished version of Donald Trump.”  It’s stated that Christie is “Blunt and outspoken, he has never been shy about engaging in political pugilistics.”

    Sounds a lot like Trump.  I heard another podcast with Christie, and he came across just as obnoxious and arrogant as The Donald.  Fine.  We need that to fight the left.

    I used to like Christie until that Obama hug on the beach.  I wouldn’t vote for Governor Christie in the Republican primary should he run in 2024, but I will wholeheartedly support him if he wins the nomination – just like I did McCain and Romney.  I would never become a “Never-Christie” . . .

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  3. RufusRJones Member
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    Today I heard that the best way to describe Trump is the “greatest anti-left politician” of all time. I think that’s right. 

    That is the main trend we have to keep in place.

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  4. Franz Drumlin Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Today I heard that the best way to describe Trump is the “greatest anti-left politician” of all time. I think that’s right.

    Ronald Reagan was instrumental in taking down the biggest ‘Left’ of all, the Soviet Union. The Bush Sr. and Clinton administrations can be seen as extensions of Reagan’s very successful eight years in office. In effect, Reagan broke the American Left and left it in pieces until 2008. Its attempt to regain control of American cultural and political life was in fact, I think, energized by Trump. We can see that clearly in the campaign for Governor of Virginia. Terry McAuliffe played his last remaining card by repeatedly mentioning the name of Trump in his final campaign speeches. (We’ll find out later tonight or tomorrow whether or not this tactic worked.) The GOP, and the country, will be better served by moving on.

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  5. RufusRJones Member
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    When they talk about broadband as infrastructure, that is an extremely messy concept. You may have to talk like that to get elected, but in practice it’s basically just communism. The urban areas get it because it requires density.  This in practice makes all of the assets and almost all of the businesses in rural areas worth less. Then you transfer a bunch of money from other areas for what is really a complicated business. Where and how fast becomes a real political war. I’m not saying what anybody should do but that is the truth about it.

    He has to say that he’s worried about spending, but the reality is you cannot spend less without destroying the economy. We have been in a terrible asset bubble since pick a date.

    The reason they shouldn’t mandate the vaccine is because it doesn’t stop transmission. It spreads the same whether you get the vaccine or not. This has been every part of the governments position for three months now.  It simply keeps people out of the hospital. Even then a shocking amount of people dying in the hospital have been vaccinated. Of course, since we live in a fascist police state, the policy is not going to reflect the way the vaccine really works.

    We have such a neat system that people that want power can’t talk about Zuckerberg and Elias. Really great system. Having said that, Trump should have just left it at that.

    Georgia effectively admitted that they lost control of 400,000 ballots. What if all of the other states were half as bad? Ever since the Norm Coleman election, I have never understood why any thinking person would get within a mile of an election. These things do not have proper controls. Then it went on steroids in 2020. Nobody that is politically visible cares including Chris Christie. Most of this disgusting and effectively criminal behavior will be stopped in the next election but it’s not coming from our leaders.

    Discussing if Congress should override an election is stupid. The fact is, in reality. every GOP legislature could have just over read their election simply because of the horrific ballot controls. It was too politically hot to do the right thing.

    Now for the who we are as Republicans part The objective is to go on an anti-communist path given how broken our institutions are. He is acting like there isn’t a long list of broken institutions. Republicans really need to quit doing that.

    The reason that we lose the popular vote is, we have so many broken institutions and for the last X number of years, the primary purpose of government is to steal from each other. The Democrat party facilitates it better.

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  6. RufusRJones Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Now for the who we are as Republicans part The objective is to go on an anti-communist path given how broken our institutions are. He is acting like there isn’t a long list of broken institutions. Republicans really need to quit doing that.

    https://ricochet.com/podcast/federalist-radio-hour/how-america-could-lose-free-speech-and-due-process/

     

    @garyrobbins 

     

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  7. Gary Robbins Reagan
    Gary Robbins
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    Franz Drumlin (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Today I heard that the best way to describe Trump is the “greatest anti-left politician” of all time. I think that’s right.

    Ronald Reagan was instrumental in taking down the biggest ‘Left’ of all, the Soviet Union. The Bush Sr. and Clinton administrations can be seen as extensions of Reagan’s very successful eight years in office. In effect, Reagan broke the American Left and left it in pieces until 2008. Its attempt to regain control of American cultural and political life was in fact, I think, energized by Trump. We can see that clearly in the campaign for Governor of Virginia. Terry McAuliffe played his last remaining card by repeatedly mentioning the name of Trump in his final campaign speeches. (We’ll find out later tonight or tomorrow whether or not this tactic worked.) The GOP, and the country, will be better served by moving on.

    I think that the country has moved on from tarring all Republicans with the Trump label.  I am 69.  I remember the Democrats running against Herbert Hoover long into the 1980’s!  But Youngkin has demonstrated how to not let him being labeled a Trumper.  The bottom line is to not denounce or denegrate Trump, and to gratefully accept his endorsement, but to never ever appear in a photograph with him.  This is a winning formula in purple to blue states.

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  8. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Franz Drumlin (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Today I heard that the best way to describe Trump is the “greatest anti-left politician” of all time. I think that’s right.

    Ronald Reagan was instrumental in taking down the biggest ‘Left’ of all, the Soviet Union. The Bush Sr. and Clinton administrations can be seen as extensions of Reagan’s very successful eight years in office. In effect, Reagan broke the American Left and left it in pieces until 2008. Its attempt to regain control of American cultural and political life was in fact, I think, energized by Trump. We can see that clearly in the campaign for Governor of Virginia. Terry McAuliffe played his last remaining card by repeatedly mentioning the name of Trump in his final campaign speeches. (We’ll find out later tonight or tomorrow whether or not this tactic worked.) The GOP, and the country, will be better served by moving on.

    I think that the country has moved on from tarring all Republicans with the Trump label. I am 69. I remember the Democrats running against Herbert Hoover long into the 1980’s! But Youngkin has demonstrated how to not let him being labeled a Trumper. The bottom line is to not denounce or denegrate Trump, and to gratefully accept his endorsement, but to never ever appear in a photograph with him. This is a winning formula in purple to blue states.

    Just this morning, I heard Charlie Hurt explaining that 2016 was the most issue oriented election ever. Trump talked about the issues. 

    Never Trump always talks about anything but, or they just offer boilerplate. 

    Try pitching the Principles First platform or something. Is that a good platform, given everything? You definitely have original thoughts about this, right?

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  9. Franz Drumlin Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Trump talked about the issues. 

    And Trump is the only Republican who talks about issues? Youngkin, a nice guy, friendly, suburban dad, won because he addressed issues that concerned the voters of his state. He ‘fought’ in the only effective way that one can win in a democratic society: he persuaded more people to vote for him than the other guy.  

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    Franz Drumlin (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Trump talked about the issues.

    And Trump is the only Republican who talks about issues? Youngkin, a nice guy, friendly, suburban dad, won because he addressed issues that concerned the voters of his state. He ‘fought’ in the only effective way that one can win in a democratic society: he persuaded more people to vote for him than the other guy.

    I am strictly making a comment about never Trump. 

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