The Heartland Institute’s Donald Kendal, Jim Lakely, and The Center for the American Experiment’s Isaac Orr are joined by Michael Shellenberger in episode 250 of the In The Tank Podcast.

Shellenberger is on the show to talk about his “controversial” new book “Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All.” The book destroys the climate alarmist narrative that the world is coming to an end and that wind and solar are the future of energy in the United States. He also discusses how climate alarmism has become the new secular religion that he once observed, and his journey to the side of reason, science, and realism.

Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All

https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691

Environmental Progress

https://environmentalprogress.org/founder-president

Deep reading: Climate Change Reconsidered series (published by The Heartland Institute)

http://climatechangereconsidered.org/

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  1. Zed11 Lincoln

    Have always loved the quote, “I am not a climate-change denier. I am a hysteria skeptic.”

    Thanks for spreading his message, also heard him on Praeger today. 

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    • July 2, 2020, at 5:57 PM PDT
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  2. Jim Lakely Contributor

    Zed11 (View Comment):

    Have always loved the quote, “I am not a climate-change denier. I am a hysteria skeptic.”

    Thanks for spreading his message, also heard him on Praeger today.

    Shellenberger was a delight to interview, and we hope to have him on again to dig deeper into these issues.

    I think Mike thinks he knows how his life has changed. But he doesn’t know the half of it. He will learn that his (soon-to-be) former friends on the environmental left will have no mercy in savaging him. They will not engage his arguments — that never happens because the alarmist side is on the wrong side of science — but they will try to destroy his reputation and spirit.

    We vets of the climate skeptic game have thick skin, and Mike noted that his is still thin. It will get thick fast. That’s why I want him on the podcast one month from now.

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    • July 2, 2020, at 6:55 PM PDT
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  3. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    Jim Lakely (View Comment):
    Mike thinks he knows how his life has changed. But he doesn’t know the half of it.

    He will be disappeared. It will be like he never existed. But good for him. It is nice that someone can be honest for the sake of the children.

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    • July 2, 2020, at 9:21 PM PDT
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  4. Cow Girl Thatcher

    I live in Las Vegas, and immediately to the south on I-15, as you cross into California, there is a one of those mirror-focusing-the sun solar plants. It is hideous. So many birds are killed. Also there are these horribly huge solar-farms all around Las Vegas. Sigh…such a horrible mess.

    I sure hope that this person can be heard. But I fear he will be “disappeared” like DonG says. The environmentalists really have made this concept their religion.

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    • July 2, 2020, at 11:32 PM PDT
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  5. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    I look forward to reading the book. It sounds like it expands on the book The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels in a good way. Nobody on the podcast is old enough to remember the energy crisis of the 1970s. Things I remember: rationing of gasoline, low speed limits, turning off lights, reading by low-watt (dim) bulbs, and wood burning stoves in an otherwise cold house. Those too young to remember the phrase “switch off and save” have no appreciation for how critical cheap energy is to prosperity. Few people appreciate that 4 million Africans die each year, because they don’t have the cheap energy needed for cooking, clean water and sanitation.

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    • July 3, 2020, at 7:10 AM PDT
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  6. jerrykrause Lincoln

    @jimlakely, adored this pod, thanks so, going to buy the book!

     

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    • July 3, 2020, at 10:52 AM PDT
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  7. Dr.Guido Member

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    • July 3, 2020, at 6:16 PM PDT
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