The podcast known as Goldberg, Long, and Podhoretz is always innovating, or as the kids call it, disrupting. This week, we put John Podhoretz in the driver’s seat of the GLoP bus and he steers us on a steady, smooth drive. The signposts this week: The Boston bombers and Ricin mailer, the press gets it wrong, terrorism in the age of Twitter, RINOs are good for the party, Big Bangs and great TV, and the elite media bubble/punditocracy is not the audience.

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  1. Profile photo of Benjamin Glaser Inactive

    Hallelujah!

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    • April 25, 2013 at 1:36 am
  2. Profile photo of Joseph Eagar Member

    Can you please only put the direct link once? More often than not, one of the links is broken. Thanks.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 1:52 am
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    With Podhoretz in the driver’s seat, maybe it should be called Podhoretzcast?

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    • April 25, 2013 at 2:00 am
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    Anonymous

    This is a bug in our publishing system. Sometimes the link is automatically inserted, sometimes it isn’t (usually for folks not logged in) so I add it manually just to be sure. And sometimes, yes, I forget to update the link from the last show. Both of these are correct, though. 

    Joseph Eagar: Can you please only put the direct link once? More often than not, one of the links is broken. Thanks. · 26 minutes ago
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    • April 25, 2013 at 2:21 am
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    Blue Yeti: This is a bug in our publishing system. Sometimes the link is automatically inserted, sometimes it isn’t (usually for folks not logged in) so I add it manually just to be sure. And sometimes, yes, I forget to update the link from the last show. Both of these are correct, though. · 20 minutes ago
    Joseph Eagar: Can you please only put the direct link once? More often than not, one of the links is broken. Thanks. · 26 minutes ago

    The first one is broken; the URL is misspelled.

    • #5
    • April 25, 2013 at 2:46 am
  6. Profile photo of das_motorhead Inactive

    Jonah’s terrorist list rant is one of the greatest sixty seconds in Ricochet podcast history.

    • #6
    • April 25, 2013 at 2:51 am
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    This is EJHill’s finest work. I can’t stop laughing.

    • #7
    • April 25, 2013 at 2:56 am
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    Oh boy, I can’t wait to hear the confirmation of how us (alleged) RINOs are good for the Party!

    • #8
    • April 25, 2013 at 2:57 am
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    The Big Bang Theory is my absolutely favorite show. I think it’s terrific and sweet and extremely well written. The cast is perfect. The extra characters are perfect, and they’ve done a terrific job of incorporating real-life geeks, such as Neil DeGrassi Tyson, Steve Wozniak, even Stephen Hawking, into several episodes. Now they’re focusing on tenure, so who knows what’ll happen. I won’t be surprised if a lot more young people go into sciences because of Leonard Hofstadter and Sheldon Cooper. My only gripe is that they don’t have enough new episodes. Thanks for playing the entire theme song. Love Bare Naked Ladies too!

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    • April 25, 2013 at 3:17 am
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    Rob is not ridiculous and he’s not a RINO. There can be no such thing because anyone, absolutely anyone can be a Republican. There is no Republican ideology. The party will not disavow anyone who claims him/herself one, or purge those who claim to be Republican whilst serially voting and endorsing left-wing Democrats over moderate Republicans (Colin Powell). Powell represents Republicans on Sunday shows with no complaints from Reince Prebius. Conservatives do damage to themselves making the presumption that the GOP should be conservative by using this term. They would do better accepting that the GOP is not inherently conservative, IMO.

    JPod is correct in the history an origins of the word, yet he too seems to be conflating the term Republican and conservative. Many Republicans are not at all conservative. RINO has lost all meaning. However it becomes especially ridiculous when used as a reverse pejorative as Long does (maybe he actually is ridiculous, I dunno) 

    There is still the term WHINE-NO which I’ve used to describe Republicans who are skittish when it comes to critiquing the media. And I’ve previously called for the banning of the use of RINO here at Ricochet.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 4:22 am
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    ParisParamus: I broke up with a woman with the last straw, the signal of incompatibility being Big Bang Theory. I must be a horrible person. · 7 hours ago

    I want to ‘like’ this comment, but I don’t know if it was she who watched the show or you. Terrible show. I’ll take an “elitist” show on HBO over that drivel any day of the week. 

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    • April 25, 2013 at 4:27 am
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    Anonymous

    Yep, fixed. 

    Joseph Eagar

    The first one is broken; the URL is misspelled. · 1 hour ago

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    • April 25, 2013 at 4:27 am
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    I don’t understand Goldberg. He really can’t contemplate people who want to move further to the right on issues which turn off so-called “moderates” (moderate = uninformed)? It obviously depends on the issue, but I would argue that to go more to the right on many issues (including social) might actually show the GOP has some spine and isn’t going to cave to every leftist call for equality.

    He’s right about the TV show problem, though! 

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    • April 25, 2013 at 4:32 am
  14. Profile photo of Joseph Eagar Member
    Blue Yeti: Yep, fixed. 
    Joseph Eagar

    The first one is broken; the URL is misspelled. · 1 hour ago

    6 minutes ago

    Thanks

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    • April 25, 2013 at 4:39 am
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    GKC
    Luozi: I don’t understand Goldberg. He really can’t contemplate people who want to move further to the right on issues which turn off so-called “moderates” (moderate = uninformed)? It obviously depends on the issue, but I would argue that to go more to the right on many issues (including social) might actually show the GOP has some spine and isn’t going to cave to every leftist call for equality.

    He’s right about the TV show problem, though! · 10 minutes ago

    Edited 9 minutes ago

    But Jonah is correct that the issue isn’t the need for conservatives to hunker down and be more conservative on principle. The issue is persuasion. Republicans have not a RINO problem or a purity purge issue. They have a problem of persuasion. There was a post on the Corner about Mike Lee’s speech at Heritage, and his use of terms liberals have appropriated — community, togetherness, etc. This is the language we need to use again as part of convincing that “he/she cares about me” crowd.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 4:47 am
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    Podhoretz is way off base. I suppose people can call themselves conservative if they so choose and this is what is causing all the problems, because people who aren’t conservative wish to claim the term because it is popular with a lot of people who tend to vote for Republicans. There is flood-the-zone strategy with language that makes it impossible to adequately communicate. Damage conservatisim by claiming you, too are a conservative. Words come to mean everything and anything. This has the effect of rendering the term meaningless if it isn’t policed and defended. If a lot of conservatives don’t think a given person is conservative, they have a duty to say so.

     I could claim to be a liberal, but what I really mean is a Classic Liberal, which is actually the opposite of todays run of the mill “liberal” as Ann Coulter would use the term. So all of my beliefs are well within the scope of liberalism, although to refer to myself as one, without clarification would be misleading.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 5:04 am
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    Rob has been on this subject of how Democrats, being a broad coalition without any real ideology ( I would also take issue with that aspect) have managed to pass so much legislation in the last 40 years, omits the complicity of the media, academia and Republicans themselves!

    Democrats have passed these bills because they are all default socialists and for bigger government. All that’s needed are enough Republicans, bribed, duped or otherwise corrupt, to go along.

    The role of the media cannot be dismissed. It was/is a huge factor.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 5:12 am
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    Douglas: While you can make an argument that there should be no such thing as a RINO, it’s patently silly to argue that you can’t or shouldn’t define conservative. You have to define the principles of an ideology, and declare that certain things are in opposition to that ideology (and thus point out that it makes no sense to call someone conservative when they advocate unconservative things). You can make a big tent argument for a political party, but not an ideological movement. · 6 hours ago

    Well, technically conservatism is a coalition of ideological movements, not one single ideology. Though of course, they are woven together and interrelated to a certain extent.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 5:14 am
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    But you can’t persuade people if *distinguished* Senators like John McCain go on Meet the Press, and every other Sunday show, decrying extremism in the GOP. While those who do that get a pass themselves, (and a lot of attention from the press, not-so-coincidentally) the overall message to the public is that Republicans are extremists and even some in their own party say so!

    In today’s low information, logically challenged electorate, one Republican denouncing “his own” party is worth 100 Democrats saying the same thing. Furthermore, when these cretins aren’t saying something negative about their own party in public, they are counted on panels as a balancing element. That is, here on This Week, we have one Democrat, one ‘independent” (stealth Democrat) one pundit (stealth democrat) and one Republican, John Mc Cain (or David Frum, or Colin Powell, etc) and the host is the uber-Democrat, the now journalistically closeted George Stephanopoulis! It is theater. It would be considered a farce on the level of Moliere if it were on a stage in France. And the GOP provides the casting directors a steady stream of wannabees.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 5:26 am
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    Why do we distrust RINOs? Because in the end, when it counts they always betray us. Democrats knew then and know now that in the end, regardless of what was said for the cameras Moynihan, Lieberman and the rest of the ‘reasonable’ Democrats will vote the party line. We expect that our ‘moderate’ Republicans will , when it counts , ‘reach across the aisle’ and betray us. We’ve seen it too many times. Thus we are very sensitive to seeing the people we’ve worked to elect suddenly go wobbly, Democrats are much more confident that their North Korean style party discipline will hold. Conservatives are like an eternally betrayed spouse.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 6:27 am
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    (KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK) PENNY

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    • April 25, 2013 at 6:57 am
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    Podhoretz is the master of the segue.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 7:05 am
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    This podcast hit on some excellent, excellent points. 

    Especially Jonah’s point on Reader’s Digest/New Republic.

    What killed morality in “middle America” was not Playboy, but magazines like Redbook. 

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    • April 25, 2013 at 7:09 am
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    Joe Lieberman is a conservative Democrat? You mean like Pat Moynihan? Since when did these guys ever vote for an issue that was conservative? They would be more liberal than an ordinary “liberal Democrat” in some places.

    I think part of the problem is that there are conservatives that often only care about one single issue. Would John Podhoretz be tempted to call Chuck Hagel a RINO or something similar? Perhaps. I don’t see any problem with that.

    I think the problem is when conservatives want to control other conservatives through political correctness-type speech codes. So somebody called you a RINO because you attacked their most-treasured political issue. Big deal. Block him from your twitter or facebook thingees and move on. If too many conservatives are attacking you, perhaps you should reexamine your position a bit and try to address their concerns.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 7:42 am
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    Hey, Goldberg: You may have seen this already, but in case your German is up to speed, here’s a review of Liberal Fascism I just found on the net: http://europenews.dk/en/node/5735

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    • April 25, 2013 at 7:47 am
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    The whole question of whether Tamerlan Tsarnaev “acted alone” has been answered to my satisfaction days ago. 

    Russian intel notified not only the FBI but the CIA about him and DHS even says they were “pinged” about his travels, presumably because of the Russian’s inquiries. If he was a guy simply sitting in his home in America thinking dark thoughts about slaughtering Americans how were the Russians onto him? Certainly they knew about him because of contacts and communications with known terrorists that they monitor. That’s evidence that he was at least in contact and possibly trained (if not handled) as an operative by a larger terror organization. 

    Days after this FBI contact was known many American media outlets continued to promote the silly notion that he acted alone. Many of these outlets still haven’t picked up the Daily Mail’s coverage of the fact that Tam’s American friend and two others were murdered on September 11, 2011 either. That unsolved murder in Waltham, MA is back on the front burner for the FBI now. The media are handling this like Benghazi– don’t blame a lax Obama administration for any errors or oversights.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 8:36 am
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    I broke up with a woman with the last straw, the signal of incompatibility being Big Bang Theory. I must be a horrible person.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 8:44 am
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    Joseph Eagar

    Well, technically conservatism is a coalitionof ideological movements, not one single ideology. Though of course, they are woven together and interrelated to a certain extent. · 4 hours ago

    I don’t think that’s right. The Republican Party is a coalition of ideological movements… Conservatives, Libertarians, “Moderates”… but not Conservatism. Buckley’s Fusionism was really nothing more than tweaking the principles a bit, like adjusting the color on your old TV set, but not really changing them, emphasizing the so-called Libertarian aspect a bit more and the so-called isolationist impulse less. Conservatism is pretty well defined: support for tradition (social and religious influences on civil tradition included), free market capitalism, and a strong defense. Take away any of these, and you arguably aren’t a conservative.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 9:31 am
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    Benjamin Glaser: This podcast hit on some excellent, excellent points. 

    Especially Jonah’s point on Reader’s Digest/New Republic.

    What killed morality in “middle America” was not Playboy, but magazines like Redbook. · 2 hours ago

    Playboy helped make things like Redbook possible though. Cosmopolitan used to be pretentious literary magazine. Helen Gurley Brown turned it into textual porn.

    Cosmo of 1960 and Cosmo of 2011:

    I’d argue that she couldn’t have done it without the tone set by people such as Hugh Hefner. None of the degrading cultural influences in pop culture… from porn on your computer to Will and Grace on your TV… just popped up. Milder forms of degradation paved their way. There really is a slippery slope, and they lied to you when they told you at the top that there was nothing to fear. When you hit the bottom, you slid right into the slime they said wouldn’t be there. And now they simply tell you another lie: the slime is good, embrace it.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 9:36 am
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    My favorite podcast except when you guys dump on Game of Thrones. I loved this episode.

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    • April 25, 2013 at 9:47 am
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