Untangling Variants & Outbreaks: Can Vaccines & Natural Immunity Outrun Delta?

Hubwonk host Joe Selvaggi talks with author, surgeon, and public health expert Dr. Marty Makary about the COVID-19 Delta Variant, the durability of natural and vaccinated immunity, the benefits of booster shots, and the health risks for children as we move into the fall.

Guest:

Dr. Martin Makary is a surgical oncologist and chief of the Johns Hopkins Islet Transplant Center. He is a clinical lead for the Johns Hopkins Sibley Innovation Hub and serves as Executive Director of Improving Wisely, a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation project to lower health care costs in the U.S. by creating measures of appropriateness in health care. Dr. Makary’s research focuses on the creation and evaluation of new health care innovations. He is the creator of the Surgery Checklist, publishing its first description and later served on the W.H.O. Safe Surgery Saves Lives committee. He led the W.H.O. workgroup to create global measures of surgical quality. Dr. Makary has published over 200 scientific articles, including the first description of “frailty” impacting surgical outcomes, the original studies on safety culture measurement in hospitals, and an evaluation of the Orphan Drug Act. He is a leading voice for physicians, writing in The Wall Street Journal, and is the author of The New York Times best-selling book, Unaccountable, about patient safety and physician-led transparency efforts in health care. Dr. Makary is the founder of the Johns Hopkins Center For Surgical Outcomes Research and Clinical Trials and is the recipient of numerous grants to evaluate the effectiveness of new surgical technology and new interventions in health care. He serves jointly as a professor of surgery at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and a professor of health policy & management at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. He has pioneered new pancreas operations at Johns Hopkins, including the laparoscopic Whipple procedure. He performed the first series of laparoscopic islet auto-transplantation and other laparoscopic operations in field of surgery. Dr. Makary is among the few highest-volume laparoscopic pancreas surgeons in the United States. He is the recipient of the National Pancreas Foundation Nobility in Science Award. Dr. Makary is a graduate of Bucknell, Thomas Jefferson and Harvard University. He completed his surgical training at Georgetown University and his fellowship at Johns Hopkins Hospital.

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  1. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
    Eugene Kriegsmann
    @EugeneKriegsmann

    One of the better episodes of this podcast. Frequently, the episodes are of limited interest if you aren’t a Bostonian. This one was pretty universal. Dr. Makary makes some very credible arguments in favor of the various vaccines. If he had been the leading spokesperson for the vaccines there might have been a lot less resistance to them. Needless to say, I totally agree with his view that the disease is far more dangerous than the vaccines. I have read a lot of arguments against the vaccines, but find that they are filled with a lot of data that is actually not supported by real data. With more than 300,000 doses having been given, it would be impossible to hide any significant number of negative side effects, yet claims of thousands are made in many of these “studies.” They all seem to have the same level of credibility as the claims about autism being caused by vaccination. 

    Anyway, this is well worth listening to. It is solid, fact based information.

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  2. MiMac Thatcher
    MiMac
    @MiMac

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    One of the better episodes of this podcast. Frequently, the episodes are of limited interest if you aren’t a Bostonian. This one was pretty universal. Dr. Makary makes some very credible arguments in favor of the various vaccines. If he had been the leading spokesperson for the vaccines there might have been a lot less resistance to them. Needless to say, I totally agree with his view that the disease is far more dangerous than the vaccines. I have read a lot of arguments against the vaccines, but find that they are filled with a lot of data that is actually not supported by real data. With more than 300,000 doses having been given, it would be impossible to hide any significant number of negative side effects, yet claims of thousands are made in many of these “studies.” They all seem to have the same level of credibility as the claims about autism being caused by vaccination.

    Anyway, this is well worth listening to. It is solid, fact based information.

     

    I agree with your point but check your figures-more than 370,000,000 doses in the USA alone. More than 5.26 BILLION doses worldwide. If there were significant per cent of side effects there would be a BIG pile of bodies.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

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  3. Jim Kearney Contributor
    Jim Kearney
    @JimKearney

    Very informative. Thank you!

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