It’s the Harvard Lunch Club Political Podcast for August 30, 2016, the “What? Rob Long Again!?” edition of the HLC Podcast. The Ricochet co-founder (@roblong) and former executive producer of Cheers joins us and updates us (with not so subtle “I-told-you-so’s”) on the sinking of the S.S. Trump. Blub, blub, blub. Mike valiantly argues: “it’s a binary election there are only two choices” and “who cares whether you can look your daughter in the eye after voting” and “are you kidding!? we’re talking about Hillary as the alternative!” And Rob’s riposte is: blub, blub, blub.

Rob is of the opinion that Donald Trump is an irredeemable reprobate with a grandiosity complex and sociopathic tendencies. It’s hard to argue given the hole we seem to be in.

But you can judge for yourself who wins this round of the Trump vs. NeverTrump Battle Royale. We make the appeal, nevertheless, that the center-right can continue to discuss, commune, drink and think together…and that Ricochet is the place on the web to do that.

We also talk about the tragic breakup – revealed only today – between Anthony (Romeo) Wiener and his blushing bride Huma (Juliet) Abedin. What’s the big deal about a little sexting anyway?! It’s the 21st Century for goodness sake!

We’ll have our shower thoughts as usual and, with Mike left in charge of the final production of this podcast, a superb hidden gem, namely, the 1981 bootleg recording of Tom Waits and Bruce Springsteen in Los Angeles singing Waits’ classic “Jersey Girl.” It is, trust me, orgasmic.

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  1. Eugene Kriegsmann Member

    I enjoyed the podcast enormously, as I used to before Mike and Todd became Trump finger puppets. The choice to see the election as binary and vote for Trump against Hillary is a perfectly defensible position. It is not my choice, but I respect those who make it. I choose to vote for neither. What I found in the past to be inexcusable was the willingness to ignore reality and continue to see Trump as the Second Coming. That said, I don’t know for sure that Trump will lose this election by a landslide, by a slim margin, or possibly win it due to Hillary’s incredible incompetence and dishonesty. Despite Trump’s weaseling on immigration, he does seem to be holding his ground as Hillary seems to be losing some of hers. Being a conservative in Western Washington means being irrelevant in a presidential election, in fact, in all but local and congressional elections (even there it is somewhat less than satisfying.)

    Anyway, I am glad to be able to once again tune into your podcast and not find myself turning it off half-way through in disgust. I am curious to see is another personal favorite, John Derbyshire, has repented his status as a Trump finger puppet also. His absurd gloating over Trump’s previous stances on immigration made it nearly impossible to listen to. It isn’t that I am for open borders, I am not. I simply wanted someone to run who could be trusted.

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    • August 30, 2016, at 10:46 AM PDT
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  2. rebark Inactive

    Sic ’em, Rob.

    • #2
    • August 30, 2016, at 1:39 PM PDT
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  3. rebark Inactive

    Yes yes that’s unproductive and only worsens the divide within our party. But all the Trumpkins knew, KNEW, that they understood the country better than the Beltway elites who think that the country isn’t 65% right-wing conservative. People who think like me were either lying, stupid, evil, or all three.

    How’s that plan working out now?

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    • August 30, 2016, at 1:44 PM PDT
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  4. Pete EE Member

    HLC does not show up on Stitcher. I imagine that may hurt viewership.

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    • August 31, 2016, at 12:09 AM PDT
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  5. Shawn Buell, Jeopardy Champ! Contributor

    Rob wins by KO.

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    • August 31, 2016, at 8:07 AM PDT
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  6. Blue Yeti Admin

    Pete EE:HLC does not show up on Stitcher. I imagine that may hurt viewership.

    We’ll fix that (although we have relatively few listeners on there).

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    • August 31, 2016, at 8:28 AM PDT
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  7. Sheila S. Inactive
    Sheila S. Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Blue Yeti:

    Pete EE:HLC does not show up on Stitcher. I imagine that may hurt viewership.

    We’ll fix that (although we have relatively few listeners on there).

    Thanks! To quote Dr. Suess, “We are here! We are here! We are here!” I’ve been using Stitcher to listen for a couple of years now…

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    • August 31, 2016, at 9:18 AM PDT
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  8. Michael Stopa Contributor

    Blue Yeti:

    Pete EE:HLC does not show up on Stitcher. I imagine that may hurt viewership.

    We’ll fix that (although we have relatively few listeners on there).

    Thanks to Pete, thanks to B.Y.!

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    • August 31, 2016, at 9:53 AM PDT
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  9. Michael Stopa Contributor

    Majestyk:Rob wins by KO.

    We were trying to be civil to our guest!

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    • August 31, 2016, at 9:53 AM PDT
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  10. Shawn Buell, Jeopardy Champ! Contributor

    Michael Stopa:

    Majestyk:Rob wins by KO.

    We were trying to be civil to our guest!

    Perhaps shoot for “sparring partner” instead of “punching bag” next time. :) It’s OK, if you get a little contentious with Rob I’m sure he’ll come back.

    This business about the binary choice involves a magician’s trick on the Trump supporters’ part: The trick is the assumption that this is a straight-up fair fight between two equally matched opponents and that every vote is going to have supernatural significance when it comes down to it. The truth is that Trump has slit the throat of Republican chances nationally.

    Michael, as a Physicist and a Scientist, you know that is the case. The polls were essentially dead-on in the prior election. The national horse-race number is essentially meaningless other than as a barometer of how close the national popular vote is.

    The state polls reveal an ugly picture for Trump: He can’t flip any blue states and he is in real danger of losing numerous states Romney won.

    That isn’t the fault of neverTrump people: that’s the fault of Trump himself for failing to make of himself a credible candidate. This is a guy who could only manage to get 40% of the Republican primary electorate – and to flip his claim on its head, no Republican primary candidate has had more votes go against him either. Nothing on that front has changed, and the mythical surge of lower-middle class whites that the Trump campaign is saying will show up to vote for them is just that: mythical.

    If Trump had a shred of decency and honor he would commit political seppuku for the good of the nation and step aside for Pence or for whatever the party could cobble together. But he doesn’t, so he won’t.

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    • August 31, 2016, at 10:10 AM PDT
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  11. connorfamilyr1 Coolidge

    Catching up on old HLC podcast. I really enjoy Rob Long and miss him on the Ricochet podcast. I even recently started watching his show “Kevin Can Wait.”

    That said looking back on his comments from this podcast man was he off base HAHA. Should Rob Long return to HLC podcast in 2017, I hope you guys give him the business!

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    • January 9, 2017, at 11:41 AM PST
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