Theybie Morons

Welcome to the Harvard Lunch Club Political Podcast for July 25, 2018 number 185!!! it’s the Theybie Morons edition of the show with your definitely not-moronic hosts, radio guy Todd Feinburg and dedicated AI-bot Mike Stopa.

This week we bring you two topics from the culture wars, the gender wars, the what are they doing to that baby?!? wars.

NPR reports that the trend of raising babies without gender – letting them choose when it comes natural to them – is a trend sweeping the nation. Not a girl, not a boy, but a “theybie” is what they got. Is it cruelty to children to try to deprive them of guidance and weaponize your own child to undermine 1 million years of human evolution because the prom queen and the football captain wouldn’t have anything to do with you when you were in high school? We analyze.

Then, Sweden is having a problem with the more liberal interpretation of “lifestyles.” Specifically, an outfit called SaveMySweden.com is conducting a virtual hate campaign against those peace-loving newest neighbors (i.e. Muslims) who insist on upsetting the “natural” marital balance!!! One man – one woman marriage? Or only *two people* anyway?!? Who insists on that these days??? Is polygamy the next big thing in Sweden? We discuss.

Our shower thoughts? Of course. And our hidden gem is from the Crash Test Dummies: Androgynous. Enjoy!

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There are 8 comments.

  1. Saint Augustine Member

    In pirate voice:

    Yar. They be morons.

    • #1
    • July 25, 2018, at 3:29 AM PDT
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  2. Kephalithos Member

    For every one jilted, left-leaning, homely non-football-player who chooses to raise a “theybie,” there’re at least ten jilted, right-leaning, homely non-football-players who’d never do such a daft thing. (Frankly, most of these people don’t want to be football captains, anyway.)

    The motivating factor isn’t psychology; it’s philosophy. Psychoanalysis merely evades the very real (and very radical) problem which is the social-justice ideology.

    • #2
    • July 25, 2018, at 5:25 AM PDT
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  3. colleenb Member

    Great podcast and I’m sorry I agree that same-sex desire is intrinsically not natural. As to the ‘theybie’ parents, I’ve got a grandson and I cannot imagine the hoops one would have to go through to ‘avoid’ thinking about, speaking, writing of him as a boy. Stalinist except that they are doing it to themselves (fine) and to their child (sad) and no one dies (except common sense).

    • #3
    • July 25, 2018, at 9:49 AM PDT
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  4. drlorentz Member

    Dr. Stopa’s analogy with diabetes fails on several levels but there’s a key factual error that stands out: Type 2 diabetes is often (perhaps usually) caused by diet. Eat too much sugar and the islets of Langerhans get tired of making insulin. Dietary and lifestyle modifications (i.e., factors under the control of the patient) are the principal components of treatment. Thus, it is incorrect to say that diabetics have the disease through no fault of their own. That’s true of Type 1 and only some Type 2. Many other diseases are also principally mediated by patient choice. If you shoot yourself in the foot, you don’t get to blame the gun or bad luck.

    Unlike diabetes, homosexuality does not appear to be a lifestyle choice. The exception may be lesbian until graduation and similar phenomena. Because experimentation of this kind is a lifestyle choice, it’s not generally included. Activists like to exaggerate the proportions to increase their importance. Contra Mr. Feinburg’s view, the number is at most 3%, not 10% to 20%. Specifically, the CDC says,

    Among all U.S. adults aged 18 and over, 96.6% identified as straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The remaining 1.1% of adults identified as ‘‘something else’’ (0.2%), selected ‘‘I don’t know the answer’’ (0.4%), or refused to provide an answer (0.6%). After classifying as missing data and dropping from the analyses those cases with responses of ‘‘something else,’’ ‘‘I don’t know the answer,’’ and refused, the percentage of adults who identify as gay or lesbian and bisexual remained unchanged, and the percentage of adults who identify as straight increased slightly to 97.7%

    There’s a very weak trend with age, the over 65’s having a lower prevalence of homosexuality, possibly indicating some cultural factors are at work. However, the 18–44 and 45–64 groups are almost identical. Beware accepting the activists’ propaganda, gents.

    • #4
    • July 25, 2018, at 11:41 AM PDT
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  5. Michael Stopa Podcaster

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Dr. Stopa’s analogy with diabetes fails on several levels but there’s a key factual error that stands out: Type 2 diabetes is often (perhaps usually) caused by diet. Eat too much sugar and the islets of Langerhans get tired of making insulin. Dietary and lifestyle modifications (i.e., factors under the control of the patient) are the principal components of treatment. Thus, it is incorrect to say that diabetics have the disease through no fault of their own. That’s true of Type 1 and only some Type 2. Many other diseases are also principally mediated by patient choice. If you shoot yourself in the foot, you don’t get to blame the gun or bad luck.

    Unlike diabetes, homosexuality does not appear to be a lifestyle choice. The exception may be lesbian until graduation and similar phenomena. Because experimentation of this kind is a lifestyle choice, it’s not generally included. Activists like to exaggerate the proportions to increase their importance. Contra Mr. Feinburg’s view, the number is at most 3%, not 10% to 20%. Specifically, the CDC says,

    Among all U.S. adults aged 18 and over, 96.6% identified as straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The remaining 1.1% of adults identified as ‘‘something else’’ (0.2%), selected ‘‘I don’t know the answer’’ (0.4%), or refused to provide an answer (0.6%). After classifying as missing data and dropping from the analyses those cases with responses of ‘‘something else,’’ ‘‘I don’t know the answer,’’ and refused, the percentage of adults who identify as gay or lesbian and bisexual remained unchanged, and the percentage of adults who identify as straight increased slightly to 97.7%

    There’s a very weak trend with age, the over 65’s having a lower prevalence of homosexuality, possibly indicating some cultural factors are at work. However, the 18–44 and 45–64 groups are almost identical. Beware accepting the activists’ propaganda, gents.

    As with any analogy Dr. there is a point of contact and then there are more distant features that do not align. The point I was making about homosexuality and diabetes (and I meant type I diabetes) relates to two things: (1) it is unfortunate, and (2) there is no moral culpability; in my opinion. And I can even refine that by discussing it from a parental point of view. (1) I don’t want my children to be homosexual (it is hard for them in a variety of ways and I don’t get, without intervention, biological grandchildren, which I want). And then, (2) I do not blame my children if they turn out homosexual – although I do believe that part of parenting is teaching children proper sexual roles…so I might blame myself.

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    • July 25, 2018, at 12:49 PM PDT
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  6. drlorentz Member

    Michael Stopa (View Comment):
    As with any analogy Dr. there is a point of contact and then there are more distant features that do not align. The point I was making about homosexuality and diabetes (and I meant type I diabetes) relates to two things: (1) it is unfortunate, and (2) there is no moral culpability; in my opinion.

    OK, thanks for the clarification. Most diabetes is Type 2 so I assumed you were including that. My point stands, however, that many diseases have behavioral elements. If you confine the analogy to diseases that are strictly genetic or contracted accidentally, OK.

    Michael Stopa (View Comment):
    And I can even refine that by discussing it from a parental point of view. (1) I don’t want my children to be homosexual (it is hard for them in a variety of ways and I don’t get, without intervention, biological grandchildren, which I want). And then, (2) I do not blame my children if they turn out homosexual – although I do believe that part of parenting is teaching children proper sexual roles…so I might blame myself.

    I’m not sure that everyone would agree that getting homosexuality is unfortunate. You’re probably right that many parents would opt for a treatment if one were available but that could be a cultural bias that might change in the future. While homosexuality may be biologically dysfunctional inasmuch as it is inconsistent with procreation, there are many ways in which we have strayed from strict adherence to biological imperatives. Technology has played a role in this. For example, you could have grandchildren via a surrogate if your child is male or through artificial insemination if female. I’m not advocating these approaches, just pointing out that they are newly (in evolutionary timescale) available.

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    • July 25, 2018, at 1:30 PM PDT
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  7. Al Sparks Thatcher

    I found myself agreeing with Mike Stopa more than Todd Feinberg. One thing I gathered from their conversation is that Todd seems to think that homosexuality is more common than it is.

    At one time, there was a misconception that 10 percent of the population are homosexuals, when it’s really closer to 3 percent. They have a more pervasive cultural influence than their numbers suggest they should. Part of this is the higher percentage in Hollywood and other cultural centers.

    The result is we see more homosexuality on television than we do in real life. It’s affected our politics way too much.

    • #7
    • July 26, 2018, at 6:37 AM PDT
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  8. Michael Stopa Podcaster

    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    I found myself agreeing with Mike Stopa more than Todd Feinberg.

    This is a good instinct, Al. Go with it.

     

    • #8
    • July 26, 2018, at 10:31 AM PDT
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