The Trump Impeachment edition

G’Day Podcast Mates and welcome to another edition of the Harvard Lunch Club Political Podcast, number 225!!! it is the Trump Impeachment edition with your unimpeachable hosts radio guy Todd Feinburg and AI guy Mike Stopa.

This week we discuss the continued, unabated mania that the left has for impeaching Trump and we ask: who suffers most from this blindfolded denial? Are there Dems who will be elected because the likes of Nadler and Schiff spend the remainder of the 116th Congress retracing the sterile steps of Robert Mueller and his Hillary-supporting attack dogs looking for actual Russian collusion? Or does this appear (as Nancy Pelosi seems to think) to be a losing strategy?

Another way to ask this is simply this: can the left in America ever really get over the 2016 election? Can the average upper middle class elitist coastal-dwelling liberal ever accept that it is okay to just allow Trump to be President as the legitimately elected leader of the nation? Their mantra has been, until now, “this cannot stand.” Needless to say, that is an infantile response to an adverse event. You don’t learn anything about the world reacting that way.

Next, speaking of “adverse” events, the Liberals (read: the right) in Australia have won a stunning election. It appears that every poll and every pundit predicted that Scott Morrison’s government would go down to defeat and yet they won a third term. It thus ranks with Brexit and Trump as one of the major triumphs of the burgeoning populist movement. When the U.S. is finally overwhelmed by illegal aliens Australia might be the logical place to escape. We ask (everyone is asking) how did the polls get it so wrong?

Our shower thoughts (Mike talks about Game of Thrones) yes! And our hidden gem this week is from folk legend Gordon Bok with Ann Muir: “Freedom on the Wallaby.” Enjoy!

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  1. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne

    No one likes classically liberal economics but here it goes.

    Todd Feinburg at at 39:10 sounds like a Bernie Bro and he is making the biggest economic fallacy of all. That there is a limited amount of wealth and prestige and that if you don’t have anything you can’t get anything. I half expect him to talk about late stage capitalism next.

    People have been speaking this way about capitalism for over a hundred years. To quote a recent post by Taras.

    @blackprince — Remember, socialists have been talking about how this is “late capitalism“, about to collapse, since at least the 1860s. My Econ 101 textbook, back in the early seventies, explained how the Soviet Union had a higher growth rate than the US. Meanwhile, the classical liberal economists I read on my own time said this was nonsense and propaganda, and the Soviet Union was headed for collapse.

    Circa 1990, the best-selling socialist economist, Robert Heilbroner, wrote two essays in the New Yorker, in which he was forced to admit he had been wrong about economics his entire life, and the classical liberals had been right all along.

    Basically, 19th century leftists had made up the term “capitalism“ as a pejorative way to refer to real economics; while “socialism“ was a nice-sounding way to refer to their fantasy economics. In the 20th century, they got to apply their fantasy economics to real countries, with the usual result being millions of people starving to death.

    Everyone was talking about late capitalism during the Obama administration when stupid and big government prevented lots of folks from creating wealth and growing the pie. Then Trump hugged (groped? grabbed?) capitalism with great affection and now things are going gangbusters. If working class Australians are having a tougher time getting ahead it isn’t because of free markets.

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  2. colleenb Member

    @henrycastaigne– I think that Todd was making the Bernie argument as Bernie would make it rather than saying this is what he thinks.  Otherwise I agree with you totally that we are woefully bad at economics in the country/world generally.  And how can anyone be in favor of socialism looking at the current example of Venezuela??  Haven’t heard much about Venezuela recently though people continue to starve and die of treatable diseases.  I still think it will become Cuba only bigger and with oil. 

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