The Shunning Alan Podcast

Welcome to the Harvard Lunch Club Political Podcast for July 4, Independence Day! Happy Birthday America it is the edition 182 and the American birthday 242 (got us beat there) and it is the Shunning Alan Edition of the podcast with your patriotic and oft-shunned hosts radio guy Todd Feinburg and (the handsome one) AI guy Mike Stopa (on the oh-so-left coast). This week (as always) we bring you the conversation that you thirst for! We will talk about Alan Dershowitz, and Martha;s Vineyard and the great shunning of ol’ Al by the liberal elite because he said something (on television) that might work to the advantage of the Donald and *that* is verbotten!!!!!

Then, it is Pagophobia II. Fear of ICE. The left is now calling for the dismantling of the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agency. They don’t want immigration laws enforced *at all*. Let ’em in! Come to the trough of American Greatness!

How, honestly, is that going to play out?

Our shower thoughts (one from the Wizard of Oz) and our hidden gem, the incomparable tear-jerker Don’t Say You Don’t Remember by Beverly Bremers. Enjoy!!!!

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  1. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Right on, folks!

    Yeah, it’s like Kant said: We go wrong morally when we want everyone else to follow some rule and try to carve out a special exception for ourselves, just because we think we’re so special.

    It’s amazing how much moral ground the Golden Rule–any version of it–will cover.

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  2. Michael Stopa Contributor
    Michael Stopa
    @MichaelStopa

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Right on, folks!

    Yeah, it’s like Kant said: We go wrong morally when we want everyone else to follow some rule and try to carve out a special exception for ourselves, just because we think we’re so special.

    It’s amazing how much moral ground the Golden Rule–any version of it–will cover.

    Conversely, it’s amazing how easy it is for some people to embrace a contradiction.

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  3. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    In regards to the denizens of Martha’s Vineyards who treat Prof. Dershowitz shabbily: 

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  4. contrarian Inactive
    contrarian
    @Contrarian

    That song was awful. It sounded like something from a late 60’s or early 70’s movie soundtrack. Play it over a montage of the leads spending the day together cavorting in a park or somesuch treacly nonsense.

    Blech.

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  5. Quake Voter Inactive
    Quake Voter
    @QuakeVoter

    contrarian (View Comment):

    That song was awful. It sounded like something from a late 60’s or early 70’s movie soundtrack. Play it over a montage of the leads spending the day together cavorting in a park or somesuch treacly nonsense.

    Blech.

    Can’t imagine why he’s trying to forget:

    Image result for beverly bremers

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  6. Al Sparks Thatcher
    Al Sparks
    @AlSparks

    Regarding the discussion of the Wizard of Oz and his character, the movie starring Judy Garland treated the Wizard differently than the book written by L. Frank Baum.

    The movie portrayed the Wizard as someone trying to do his best under trying circumstances (I’m a bad wizard, not a bad person).

    The book portrayed him as a coward, and the wizard himself admits as much.

    I’ve read at least one essay, years ago, on the differences between the book and the movie from the conservative viewpoint, with the book advocating a harder moral tone.

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  7. Al Sparks Thatcher
    Al Sparks
    @AlSparks

    I don’t know if Mike Stopa’s proposal to privatize ICE was tongue in cheek or not, but it’s a bad idea.  Providing financial incentives to go catch illegal immigrants (or any lawbreaker) is also a bad idea.

    The United States, or more precisely, some states within the United States, do allow for bounty hunters for people who skip bail.  Maybe that should be looked at for illegal immigration, but the few reality shows I’ve seen on bounty hunters makes me skeptical.

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  8. Michael Stopa Contributor
    Michael Stopa
    @MichaelStopa

    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    I don’t know if Mike Stopa’s proposal to privatize ICE was tongue in cheek or not, but it’s a bad idea. Providing financial incentives to go catch illegal immigrants (or any lawbreaker) is also a bad idea.

    The United States, or more precisely, some states within the United States, do allow for bounty hunters for people who skip bail. Maybe that should be looked at for illegal immigration, but the few reality shows I’ve seen on bounty hunters makes me skeptical.

    I did not think it through, Al. I imagine if the U.S. Government did outsource it’s border and interior enforcement it would be hamstrung by so many regulations that it wouldn’t be any better than Border Patrol and ICE…and I actually think they are doing a great job under trying circumstances.

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  9. Mike LaRoche Inactive
    Mike LaRoche
    @MikeLaRoche

    Michael Stopa (View Comment):

    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    I don’t know if Mike Stopa’s proposal to privatize ICE was tongue in cheek or not, but it’s a bad idea. Providing financial incentives to go catch illegal immigrants (or any lawbreaker) is also a bad idea.

    The United States, or more precisely, some states within the United States, do allow for bounty hunters for people who skip bail. Maybe that should be looked at for illegal immigration, but the few reality shows I’ve seen on bounty hunters makes me skeptical.

    I did not think it through, Al. I imagine if the U.S. Government did outsource it’s border and interior enforcement it would be hamstrung by so many regulations that it wouldn’t be any better than Border Patrol and ICE…and I actually think they are doing a great job under trying circumstances.

    There’s always the Texas Rangers. 😎

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  10. Steve Rosenbach Member
    Steve Rosenbach
    @SteveRosenbach

    Mike – “Don’t Say You Don’t Remember”… a great hidden gem! I was just graduating from college in ’71 when this came out, but don’t remember it from that time at all. I stumbled across it a few years ago on YouTube, and found that I really liked it. Good melody, nice harmonies, great arrangement. Thanks!

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  11. Michael Stopa Contributor
    Michael Stopa
    @MichaelStopa

    Steve Rosenbach (View Comment):

    Mike – “Don’t Say You Don’t Remember”… a great hidden gem! I was just graduating from college in ’71 when this came out, but don’t remember it from that time at all. I stumbled across it a few years ago on YouTube, and found that I really liked it. Good melody, nice harmonies, great arrangement. Thanks!

    Steve, Thanks very much! But you have a beef with Contrarian (#4) above!!!

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