Irredeemable AOC

Hello podcast fans, young and old, big and small and welcome to this edition of the Harvard Lunch Club Political podcast, number 215(!!!) the Irredeemable AOC edition of the show with your lost-soul hosts, east coast radio guy Todd Feinburg and west coast AI guy Mike Stopa. Each week we bring to you the meat, the core, the essence of the political scene with cutting insight, guffaw-inducing humor and a pinch of profundity.

This week we bring you the infamous Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, the big AOC, the woman of the hour. It is the sunset of capitalism and the dawn of a new human stewardship of the sacred space-travelling temple that we call planet Earth. It is a moment of renewal, it is a platform so sincere that the trees will be hugging us back. AOC forever!

We also have our shower thoughts (they’re the best!) and naturally our hidden gem which is this week Rain by Youtube sensation Rob Scallon. Enjoy!

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There are 15 comments.

  1. Listener

    AOC is an actress, as per Mr. Reagan’s video: https://youtu.be/1h5iv6sECGU and that we were not paying attention to this tactic to take over the Dems is a point that has been made very well by Carl Benjamin: https://youtu.be/lF6Tm5OZmhQ

    I did think that the Dem machine allowed AOC to happen to consolidate Pelosi’s hold since Crowley was the main contender for Speaker. The recent release of information about the dark money surrounding AOC’s team seems to be the Dem machine clipping her wings – but I don’t think the Dems have quite grasped the nature of the beast within. The blustering/flustering over the Green New Deal and the anti-semitism shows this.

    There will be a recalibration in the Dems, but the genie has been let out of the bottle. Only if this is allowed to play out, and the American people wholeheartedly vote against this attack on freedom, will this Gramsci-esque takeover stop.

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    • March 11, 2019, at 3:13 AM PDT
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  2. Coolidge

    The one point I’d like to add about the decline of the big cities, is how corrupt machine politics have infused the democratic party into the government. Look how quickly the Obama Administration fused itself into the state – to the point that the FBI emulated the KGB (the sword and shield of the party) in just 8 years – it difficult to imagine how tightly the party has fused itself into the cities where its had 8 decades.

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    • March 11, 2019, at 6:13 AM PDT
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  3. Listener

    Harvard Lunch Podcast, you have been, by far, my favorite podcast to freeloadoff of, and now I’m a happy paying consumer. In my family HL get Dad and his #2 daughters vote every time.Thank you, sirs!

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    • March 11, 2019, at 6:27 AM PDT
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  4. Coolidge

    I say this whenever it comes up, O&H, Beaver, Donna Reed , Life with Father were the North Star of my childhood growing up in the city in a semi-Dickensian home situation. I achieved everything in that regard that I aspired to so I’m always infuriated to listen to fleabags who have achieved nothing but feel they have some kind of right to change my life. They used to say we had to be shaken out of our complacency. My ‘complacency’ was hard fought and hard won, where do they get this kind of audacity?

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    • March 11, 2019, at 6:38 AM PDT
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  5. Coolidge

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    I say this whenever it comes up, O&H, Beaver, Donna Reed , Life with Father were the North Star of my childhood growing up in the city in a semi-Dickensian home situation. I achieved everything in the regard that I aspired to so I’m always infuriated to listen to fleabags who have achieved nothing but feel they have some kind of right to change my life. They used to say we had to be shaken out of our complacency. My ‘complacency’ was hard fought and hard won, where do they get this kind of audacity?

    They get this audacity by believing they can not loose. They believe that they’ll run the table in 2020 – in their minds, it literally does not matter one iota who they are, what policies or agenda they advocate. They truly believe that the only issue that will matter will be Trump – and as long as they’re not named Trump. Its all theirs for the taking.

    I predict – pain.

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    • March 11, 2019, at 7:16 AM PDT
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    The one point I’d like to add about the decline of the big cities, is how corrupt machine politics have infused the democratic party into the government. Look how quickly the Obama Administration fused itself into the state – to the point that the FBI emulated the KGB (the sword and shield of the party) in just 8 years – it difficult to imagine how tightly the party has fused itself into the cities where its had 8 decades.

    It is more alarming than that, I think. The deep state is composed principally of bureaucrats who have looked to government as a career since their college days – i.e. they are selected to be liberals. But the FBI is made up of law enforcement professionals and you’d think that if their sympathy was *not* purely with the unbiased protection of the law it would at least tend to lean right rather than left.

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    • March 11, 2019, at 8:21 AM PDT
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    EtCarter (View Comment):

    Harvard Lunch Podcast, you have been, by far, my favorite podcast to freeloadoff of, and now I’m a happy paying consumer. In my family HL get Dad and his #2 daughters vote every time.Thank you, sirs!

    EtCarter, I can’t think a of better way I’d like to begin my week than that note. We are honored!

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    • March 11, 2019, at 8:23 AM PDT
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  8. Member

    Welcome @etcarter to the HLC gang and to Ricochet. Please comment away – and tell us what your daughters are thinking too! I agree w/ Todd on AOC – she is not naive, misguided, etc. She’s 29 for G-d’s sake – not 20. She should have learned something by now. Apparently what she’s learned is to game the system – just a younger, better-looking H Clinton as far as I can tell. I’m waiting for the AOC Foundation to be started so she can really make scam some money. But Stopa you are right about Harvard, et al, will have to be taken down when ‘Free College’ arrives. The socialists/communists (and they’re the same) will throw all these colleges under the bus.

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    • March 11, 2019, at 9:07 AM PDT
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  9. Coolidge

    Great Hidden Gem, I’ll be looking up some more stuff from him.

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    • March 11, 2019, at 10:42 AM PDT
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  10. Member

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    The one point I’d like to add about the decline of the big cities, is how corrupt machine politics have infused the democratic party into the government. Look how quickly the Obama Administration fused itself into the state – to the point that the FBI emulated the KGB (the sword and shield of the party) in just 8 years – it difficult to imagine how tightly the party has fused itself into the cities where its had 8 decades.

    I’ve long heard reports from Chicago that if a business refused say, to permit a Dem candidate’s poster be placed in its storefront window, that business’s trash wouldn’t get picked up by the municipal refuse collectors. As for the federal government corruption, I think Stopa‘s broadly correct:

    Michael Stopa (View Comment):

    The deep state is composed principally of bureaucrats who have looked to government as a career since their college days – i.e. they are selected to be liberals. But the FBI is made up of law enforcement professionals and you’d think that if their sympathy was *not* purely with the unbiased protection of the law it would at least tend to lean right rather than left.

    My one quibble might be over the phrase “selected to be liberals.” There’s a certain chicken-or-the-egg thing going on here, but those who seek government as a career are in most cases naturally (socialist-leaning) liberals, since they place more value on government than on the individual. If there’s any selection going on, it’s self-selection by the bureaucrat class. Ultimately, it’s a self-perpetuating cancer that bleeds dry the poor capitalist taxpayer who’s just trying to live up to his aspirations by exercising his free enterprising rights.

    A hearty cheer for Feinburg, who correctly used the word “homogeneous.” It seems to me that more often than not these days, people say “homogenous” when they mean homogeneous. Kinda like those who say “mischievious” (mischee-vee-us) when the word is actually “mischievous” (mis-chuh-vuhs). Sometimes I forget how smart Feinburg is – heck, with diction like that, a guy could make it big in radio or something.

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    • March 11, 2019, at 3:27 PM PDT
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  11. Coolidge

    Michael Stopa (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    The one point I’d like to add about the decline of the big cities, is how corrupt machine politics have infused the democratic party into the government. Look how quickly the Obama Administration fused itself into the state – to the point that the FBI emulated the KGB (the sword and shield of the party) in just 8 years – it difficult to imagine how tightly the party has fused itself into the cities where its had 8 decades.

    It is more alarming than that, I think. The deep state is composed principally of bureaucrats who have looked to government as a career since their college days – i.e. they are selected to be liberals. But the FBI is made up of law enforcement professionals and you’d think that if their sympathy was *not* purely with the unbiased protection of the law it would at least tend to lean right rather than left.

    I agree, for most government agencies. I think law enforcement agencies have a little immunity to these people in the rank and file. As the people who actually do the work of law enforcement, want to enforce laws. Its the bureaucratic leadership of these agencies that are typical government workers.

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    • March 11, 2019, at 4:10 PM PDT
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  12. Coolidge

    Stopa is very close to getting to who the new socialist is, he just has to put it all together now, and he can do this through AOC (though it’s not a perfect comparison)

    -Middle class background

    -Tier II or III college education

    -“Got a degree” because either their passion isn’t a major or to be somewhat marketable

    -Either is pursuing a career in something difficult to get into or not wanting to “sell out”

    -lives in a major metropolitan area and isn’t “thriving” like people with better educations etc but want their lifestyle and to be able to go out to eat every night, etc.

    this new socialism isn’t about the underclass, it’s about middle class people not wanting to struggle. If only someone would pay my medical bills and pay for my college, and find a nice rent controlled place, then I could live an upwardly mobile urban lifestyle

    There’s a certain “I think the same thing that as these thought leaders and influencers who are rich, I shouldn’t have to compromise on my lifestyle to live like them and most of them got where they are due to privilege” (I think the envy is very real but it’s envy by the non-grateful vs. the truly struggling)

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    • March 12, 2019, at 8:08 AM PDT
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    EtCarter (View Comment):

    Harvard Lunch Podcast, you have been, by far, my favorite podcast to freeloadoff of, and now I’m a happy paying consumer. In my family HL get Dad and his #2 daughters vote every time.Thank you, sirs!

    Are the daughters teething age?

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    • March 12, 2019, at 5:58 PM PDT
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  14. Thatcher

    I disagree with Stopa’s assertion that envy isn’t a big factor in the liberal movement’s successs. That’s a big factor in their identity politics.

    Their ideas are bankrupt, yet they continue to win elections.

    And his assertion that Americans want to pay their own way, is also questionable. They do until they don’t.

    If Americans wanted to pay their own way, then we should be able to get rid of a whole host of middle class entitlements.

    Once such an entitlement passes, you can never get rid of it.

    As successful as Trump has been in getting certain conservative policies implemented (usually by executive action), in the end he hasn’t addressed the out of control federal spending, which has escalated starting with the Bush Administration, and continued to do so.

    The reason is obvious. Americans don’t want to pay their own way.

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    • March 13, 2019, at 9:41 PM PDT
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  15. Member

    Schools must merge in Connecticut for cities of 40,000 or more?

    My entire congressional district doesn’t have a city of more than 40,000. New Orleans was the only city in the entire Confederacy which had a population over 40,000 or 41,000 unless you count extreme northern border state areas that they claimed like Louisville or St. Louis which voted for Lincoln.

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    • March 17, 2019, at 6:26 PM PDT
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