Unisex GLoP

Spring has sprung, and that means young (or middle-aged) men’s fancies turn to unisex bathrooms, zombies, and the complete abdication of common sense from the minds of New York voters (but not in that order). Consider yourself warned.

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  1. EJHill Staff
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    Employees must wash hands before leaving the non-gender specified restroom.

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  2. Don Tillman Member
    Don Tillman
    @DonTillman

    The multi-gender symbol:

    03b4c5c7034587c9c1d60ead290b1c14

    …looks all the world to me like somebody was attempting to fix some device, pried it open, and all sorts of springs and hardware exploded out in all directions, never to be reassembled again.

    Except not springs…  Perhaps gonads.   But not regular gonads.   Maybe gonads on springs.  Or something.

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  3. EJHill Staff
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    Don Tillman: Maybe gonads on springs.

    Springtime for Gonads and Germany!

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  4. Petty Boozswha Inactive
    Petty Boozswha
    @PettyBoozswha

    Anyone under 60 would not know your closing song was by The Zombies.

    The NC bathroom wars were started by 2 SJW activists that got elected to the Charlotte City council after the mandatory accommodation bill got defeated last year.  John is right that the NC legislature then walked straight into a sucker punch in overriding it, but I don’t think the primary motivation was animus to LGBT rights. The primary concern I heard expressed is the voyeurs and pedophiles that will use this law as a pretext to avoid prosecution.

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  5. wilber forge Inactive
    wilber forge
    @wilberforge

    Creepy photo, looks like an invite from something scary !

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  6. Isaiah's Job Inactive
    Isaiah's Job
    @IsaiahsJob

    As someone who basically publishes, sells, and distributes Dungeons & Dragons rulebooks for a living, I assure you our subcultural arguments about topics like “original intent” rival any of those argued before the supreme court.

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  7. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
    goldwaterwoman
    @goldwaterwoman

    I have been a Republican for 50 years and have most certainly voted for candidates I did not want and knew would lose — Bob Dole immediately comes to mind. He was the ultimate “establishment” candidate who was shoved down our throats. Trump, despite his wealth, is a man of the people. However, the haughty intellectuals in our party deride his lack of conservative creds and collectively oppose him. God forbid they should want the same guy the unwashed masses stand in line to vote for and who enthusiastically attend his rallies by the thousands. If he becomes the candidate, and if he loses, it will be because of the snobs in our party who refuse to support him. This attitude insures defeat and President Hillary, not Donald Trump.

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  8. Blue Yeti Staff
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Petty Boozswha:Anyone under 60 would not know your closing song was by The Zombies.

    Really? I’m happy to report that I am well under 60 and know that iconic song very well. And it’s OK to be a bit enigmatic with the closing songs. Let the kids use that Shazam app they talk so much about.

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  9. Petty Boozswha Inactive
    Petty Boozswha
    @PettyBoozswha

    Blue Yeti:

    Petty Boozswha:Anyone under 60 would not know your closing song was by The Zombies.

    Really? I’m happy to report that I am well under 60 and know that iconic song very well. And it’s OK to be a bit enigmatic with the closing songs. Let the kids use that Shazam app they talk so much about.

    OK, you changed my mind.

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  10. Basil Fawlty Member
    Basil Fawlty
    @BasilFawlty

    I don’t believe I’ve ever heard anything more idiotic on Ricochet than John’s attempt to blame the North Carolina legislature for provoking a fight about males using female toilet facilities.  This is like blaming those who supported the Defense of Marriage Act for the judicial imposition of SSM.  And how did the long-standing (heh) issue of potty-parity seem to have escaped the notice of our hosts?

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  11. Sleepywhiner Inactive
    Sleepywhiner
    @Sleepywhiner

    goldwaterwoman:However, the haughty intellectuals in our party deride his lack of conservative creds and collectively oppose him.

    I am glad to know I am a “haughty intellectual” and I am also glad a Trump supporter acknowledges that he lacks conservative creds.

    You see, there is common ground between us.

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  12. Sleepywhiner Inactive
    Sleepywhiner
    @Sleepywhiner

    Petty Boozswha:Anyone under 60 would not know your closing song was by The Zombies.

    The NC bathroom wars were started by 2 SJW activists that got elected to the Charlotte City council after the mandatory accommodation bill got defeated last year. John is right that the NC legislature then walked straight into a sucker punch in overriding it, but I don’t think the primary motivation was animus to LGBT rights. The primary concern I heard expressed is the voyeurs and pedophiles that will use this law as a pretext to avoid prosecution.

    The GLOP is guilty of the same thing that led me to unfriend pretty much every liberal friend I had on Facebook – a refusal to 1)read the bill, and 2)acknowledge that its actual language was the actual language.

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  13. Nerina Bellinger Inactive
    Nerina Bellinger
    @NerinaBellinger

    Please.  Trump is a “man of the people” like Princess Diana was “the people’s princess.”. Are we really going to say that objecting to Trump is solely an act of snobbery?  Do we want to set expectations for ” the everyman” so low that they can only support a boorish, manipulative, petty, petulant and vain man who talks like an ordinary guy but just happened to go to the Wharton School?  This man gilds everything that isn’t nailed down but he’s the common man?  For the love of Pete, I give up.

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  14. RPD Inactive
    RPD
    @RPD

    goldwaterwoman:I Bob Dole immediately comes to mind. He was the ultimate “establishment” candidate who was shoved down our throats.

    Shoved down our throats by who? Republican voters voted for him to be the nominee. Nobody in a back room put him there. This has been true of Republican nominees for years, the electorate has lousy judgement and vote for lousy candidates every time. Including apparently this time.

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  15. yoyomama Inactive
    yoyomama
    @yoyomama

    I was disappointed that the discussion of the North Carolina bathroom law seems to have gotten the actual details of the law wrong. In fact it does exactly what the hosts all agreed was the best thing: leaving private institutions to decide their own bathroom policy. The bathrooms that have to stay male and female under the law are bathrooms in public buildings. In your private business you can do what you want – and indeed Target just announced that they now have a policy of opening their bathrooms up to whoever. That’s totally legal under the NC law.  The businesses it protects are those who want to keep barrooms sex-segregated, as cities are moving to make that illegal. The law I think is actually comfortablg within what the American mainstream thinks is the best live-and-let-live solution. But it’s also clear that NC lost the messaging war, especially if even our intrepid leaders at Ricochet have been misled about what the law does!

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  16. Belt Inactive
    Belt
    @Belt

    Isaiah's Job:As someone who basically publishes, sells, and distributes Dungeons & Dragons rulebooks for a living, I assure you our subcultural arguments about topics like “original intent” rival any of those argued before the supreme court.

    [rolls d20 to save versus will to avoid posting on this]

    “3”

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  17. Polyphemus Inactive
    Polyphemus
    @Polyphemus

    yoyomama:I was disappointed that the discussion of the North Carolina bathroom law seems to have gotten the actual details of the law wrong. In fact it does exactly what the hosts all agreed was the best thing: leaving private institutions to decide their own bathroom policy. The bathrooms that have to stay male and female under the law are bathrooms in public buildings. In your private business you can do what you want – and indeed Target just announced that they now have a policy of opening their bathrooms up to whoever. That’s totally legal under the NC law. The businesses it protects are those who want to keep barrooms sex-segregated, as cities are moving to make that illegal. The law I think is actually comfortablg within what the American mainstream thinks is the best live-and-let-live solution. But it’s also clear that NC lost the messaging war, especially if even our intrepid leaders at Ricochet have been misled about what the law does!

    Yes. This. I was holding my breath waiting for Rob or Jonah to correct John’s ignorance of the fact that the state was responding to the Charlotte ordinance dictating bathroom policy to businesses. How dismaying to hear this misinformation on GLoP.

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  18. kylez Member
    kylez
    @kylez

    Anyone under 60 would not know your closing song was by The Zombies.

    I knew that, and have their two albums. I was coming here to say I thought the song might be Going Mobile by The Who.

    One movie thing I am tired of is people jumping through closed windows, shattering the glass, and getting up with no problem.

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  19. SParker Member
    SParker
    @SParker

    Petty Boozswha: Anyone under 60 would not know your closing song was by The Zombies.

    No, I think maybe my generation fixed the culture that way.  And we fixed it real good.

    I was waiting for a sandwich the other day in a deli filled with youngsters, all of us listening to Steely Dan’s “Do it Again” at full volume like it was a perfectly normal thing to be doing.   Thought struck that that would be like hearing a Zez Confrey tune in a public place in 1972 and no one thinking it odd.

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  20. T Inactive
    T
    @T

    My concern with unisex bathrooms is not transgenders per se but sex offenders taking advantage of unisex bathrooms.

    As far as culture war concerns go this is a symptom of deeper problems so even if conservatives were to win this hill for awhile it wouldn’t be a lasting victory.

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  21. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
    ToryWarWriter
    @ToryWarWriter

    Was John Podheretz only one not reading the polls where it was clear Kasich was going to beat Cruz in New York by ten points?  I knew that the night of Wisconsin.

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  22. mask Inactive
    mask
    @mask

    Basil Fawlty:I don’t believe I’ve ever heard anything more idiotic on Ricochet than John’s attempt to blame the North Carolina legislature for provoking a fight about males using female toilet facilities. This is like blaming those who supported the Defense of Marriage Act for the judicial imposition of SSM. And how did the long-standing (heh) issue of potty-parity seem to have escaped the notice of our hosts?

    I’m surprised Jonah didn’t mention his usual (and great) point that the social conservatives are on the defensive in the culture wars.  John made it sound like this whole thing was cooked up by politicians or social conservative activists looking at polling numbers instead of a state reaction to lefty nonsense going on in some NC cities.

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  23. Matt Y. Inactive
    Matt Y.
    @MattY

    Wait, you guys pronounce vase like either “Voz” or “Vaze”? I’ve never heard of either pronunciation. Everyone I’ve ever known says “vace” (rhymes with “race”).

    • #23
  24. EJHill Staff
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    Something that will never faze

    is a flower in a vase.

    Or is that in a vase

    like something from the Land of Oz?

    But Matty puts in them in their place

    with a flower in a vase.

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  25. Robert Dammers Thatcher
    Robert Dammers
    @RobertDammers

    Vase rhymes with Mars – God, Planet, or verb describing damage.

    God Save the Queen!

    (edited for illiteracy)

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  26. Mate De Inactive
    Mate De
    @MateDe

    Basil Fawlty:I don’t believe I’ve ever heard anything more idiotic on Ricochet than John’s attempt to blame the North Carolina legislature for provoking a fight about males using female toilet facilities. This is like blaming those who supported the Defense of Marriage Act for the judicial imposition of SSM. And how did the long-standing (heh) issue of potty-parity seem to have escaped the notice of our hosts?

    John thought that the North Carolina legislature passed this law because it polled well? WHAT??!!!!! I guess he gets his news from the same place Bruce Stringsteen, and Ringo Starr does.

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  27. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
    ToryWarWriter
    @ToryWarWriter

    First off 28 Weeks later is terrible. If I were not in a group of people I would have walked out and demanded my money back. Movies that require the staggering stupidity of thousands of people really bother me.

    The main problem I have with Zombie movies is that they are usually written by Lefties who have no idea how many guns there are in the United States.

    The best Zombie show currently going is Z Nation. Though somewhat goofy it has some real solid thinking of how the world would react to a Zombie virus. The first season episode with the Church is enough to give anyone nightmares.

    I understand it’s a trope, but the fact that nobody ever Armors up in Zombie movies is really dumb. They transmit by bite. When the last time you saw someone bite through plate mail that wasn’t a dragon?

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  28. Lily Bart Inactive
    Lily Bart
    @LilyBart

    Polyphemus:

    yoyomama:I was disappointed that the discussion of the North Carolina bathroom law seems to have gotten the actual details of the law wrong. In fact it does exactly what the hosts all agreed was the best thing: leaving private institutions to decide their own bathroom policy. The bathrooms that have to stay male and female under the law are bathrooms in public buildings. In your private business you can do what you want – and indeed Target just announced that they now have a policy of opening their bathrooms up to whoever. That’s totally legal under the NC law. The businesses it protects are those who want to keep barrooms sex-segregated, as cities are moving to make that illegal. The law I think is actually comfortablg within what the American mainstream thinks is the best live-and-let-live solution. But it’s also clear that NC lost the messaging war, especially if even our intrepid leaders at Ricochet have been misled about what the law does!

    Yes. This. I was holding my breath waiting for Rob or Jonah to correct John’s ignorance of the fact that the state was responding to the Charlotte ordinance dictating bathroom policy to businesses. How dismaying to hear this misinformation on GLoP.

    There seems to be a lot of ignorance and misinformation on this event.

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  29. Sabrdance Member
    Sabrdance
    @Sabrdance

    Yes.  The law was in response to Charlotte mandated bathroom laws in their city and existed to restore the world to the Status Quo Ante where the decision was returned to individual businesses.  With friends like JPod, I don’t need enemies.

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  30. Bkelley14 Inactive
    Bkelley14
    @Bkelley14

    goldwaterwoman:I have been a Republican for 50 years and have most certainly voted for candidates I did not want and knew would lose — Bob Dole immediately comes to mind. He was the ultimate “establishment” candidate who was shoved down our throats. Trump, despite his wealth, is a man of the people. However, the haughty intellectuals in our party deride his lack of conservative creds and collectively oppose him. God forbid they should want the same guy the unwashed masses stand in line to vote for and who enthusiastically attend his rallies by the thousands. If he becomes the candidate, and if he loses, it will be because of the snobs in our party who refuse to support him. This attitude insures defeat and President Hillary, not Donald Trump.

    It’s hardly only the “haughty intellectuals” that oppose Trump. The majority of the party opposes him. And a majority of Republican leadership in DC opposes him because they think if he is the candidate he will LOSE and crush the party for years to come.

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