Tainted GLoP

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf 🚫 Banned
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    It’s not for nothing that “Happy Days” was the source of the term “jumped the shark.”

     

    • #31
  2. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The things you guys fight about . . .

    Hey, getting across the “Don’t trust John Podhoretz” message is somewhat important.

    • #32
  3. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf 🚫 Banned
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The things you guys fight about . . .

    Hey, getting across the “Don’t trust John Podhoretz” message is somewhat important.

    “Often-Wrong Podhoretz”?

    • #33
  4. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    In 1982, when Frankie Avalon was on Happy Days, he was only 42. And Henry Winkler was only 37. Winkler started on Happy Days at age 29. And the Frankie Avalon episode was season 9 out of 11. But Ron Howard basically was out of the last 4 seasons of the show, until a final series wrap-up.

    And Erin Moran was in at least some episodes, every season, from start to finish.

    When John says that someone is 900 years old or that Frankie Avalon was 70, he doesn’t mean they were literally that age. He’s exaggerating in order to point out the absurd of mature adults playing teenagers.

    But they were only pretending to be teenagers at the very start. It’s not like The Simpsons where Bart and Lisa have been in elementary school for over 20 years. Already even a few years before the end of Happy Days, Fonzie was a teacher and Richie was a lawyer or something. Were they pretending to be a teenage teacher and lawyer?

    I was also pointing out that John was saying he had identified the episode as being in the last season because Richie had basically been replaced by the Married With Children guy, and Joanie (Erin Moran) had been supplanted by some other character too. But Ron Howard was not in the last FOUR seasons except for the very end, and Erin Moran was in EVERY season.

    And, as I mentioned, the Frankie Avalon episode was in season 8, out of 11. Hardly “the last season.”

    John tells some cool stories, but you can’t trust his details.

    I stand corrected. I have very fuzzy memories of happy days and I thought it was “frozen in time” like MASH. I see that I was mistaken. My apologies.

    Yes, the 11-years of MASH covering a 2-year war was a problem too.  And they had like, 4 or more “Christmas” episodes?

    As it happens, the real D-Day took place 1 year and 3 months before the end of WW II.  But on Hogan’s Heroes, their D-Day episode was early in season 3, and the show went for basically another 4 years after that.

    • #34
  5. Miffed White Male Member
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    @MiffedWhiteMale

    kedavis (View Comment):
    As it happens, the real D-Day took place 1 year and 3 months before the end of WW II.  But on Hogan’s Heroes, their D-Day episode was early in season 3, and the show went for basically another 4 years after that.

    Eleven months before the end of the war in Europe, which would be the relevant measure for a show set in a German POW camp.

     

    • #35
  6. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    As it happens, the real D-Day took place 1 year and 3 months before the end of WW II. But on Hogan’s Heroes, their D-Day episode was early in season 3, and the show went for basically another 4 years after that.

    Eleven months before the end of the war in Europe, which would be the relevant measure for a show set in a German POW camp.

    Yes that’s true.  Actually makes it worse.  And at the last episode of Hogan, the war was still going on.  At least the 11-season MASH ended with the end of the 3-year Korean War.  But we don’t know how long the war may have already been going, when the series began.  Same with Hogan’s Heroes really, presumably it would have taken some time to create all the tunnels they had in place, for Episode One.

    • #36
  7. jorge espinha Inactive
    jorge espinha
    @jorgeespinha

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The things you guys fight about . . .

    Hey, getting across the “Don’t trust John Podhoretz” message is somewhat important.

    “Often-Wrong Podhoretz”?

    This is a podcast about three guys chewing the fat. So they get things wrong and they repeat stories. I’m so into this podcast that  I went back to the beginning and listened  to all available podcasts . And they repeat stuff and get things wrong has we do when we talk amongst friends. Even well researched podcasts get things wrong.

    • #37
  8. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf 🚫 Banned
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The things you guys fight about . . .

    Hey, getting across the “Don’t trust John Podhoretz” message is somewhat important.

    “Often-Wrong Podhoretz”?

    This is a podcast about three guys chewing the fat. So they get things wrong and they repeat stories. I’m so into this podcast that I went back to the beginning and listened to all available podcasts . And they repeat stuff and get things wrong has we do when we talk amongst friends. Even well researched podcasts get things wrong.

    But they’re wrong about . . . so much.

    • #38
  9. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The things you guys fight about . . .

    Hey, getting across the “Don’t trust John Podhoretz” message is somewhat important.

    “Often-Wrong Podhoretz”?

    This is a podcast about three guys chewing the fat. So they get things wrong and they repeat stories. I’m so into this podcast that I went back to the beginning and listened to all available podcasts . And they repeat stuff and get things wrong has we do when we talk amongst friends. Even well researched podcasts get things wrong.

    But they’re wrong about . . . so much.

    Yes, and TV shows/movies are just one symptom.  Also remember the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect.  Why should we take seriously anything they say about politics, economics, etc, when they can’t even be right about Happy Days?

    • #39
  10. jorge espinha Inactive
    jorge espinha
    @jorgeespinha

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The things you guys fight about . . .

    Hey, getting across the “Don’t trust John Podhoretz” message is somewhat important.

    “Often-Wrong Podhoretz”?

    This is a podcast about three guys chewing the fat. So they get things wrong and they repeat stories. I’m so into this podcast that I went back to the beginning and listened to all available podcasts . And they repeat stuff and get things wrong has we do when we talk amongst friends. Even well researched podcasts get things wrong.

    But they’re wrong about . . . so much.

    Yes, and TV shows/movies are just one symptom. Also remember the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. Why should we take seriously anything they say about politics, economics, etc, when they can’t even be right about Happy Days?

    Well… Politics are about principles and values. They are conservatives and in my opinion they haven’t lost their way. First comes country, them conservative principles and  finally the GOP. The party is just a tool. I have a party that I’m inclined to vote in Portugal but the party isn’t above ideas or the country. 

    • #40
  11. jorge espinha Inactive
    jorge espinha
    @jorgeespinha

    Happy days is about plot and fond memories of youth. So they get wrong the last season that ginger head took part. So what?

    • #41
  12. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    Happy days is about plot and fond memories of youth. So they get wrong season thar ginger head took part. So what?

    So, what else do they get wrong?

    That’s the question.

    • #42
  13. Blue Yeti Staff
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    kedavis (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    Happy days is about plot and fond memories of youth. So they get wrong season thar ginger head took part. So what?

    So, what else do they get wrong?

    That’s the question.

    You are welcome to fact check the show and post your report here. Please include two sources for every fact you check and dispute. Sorry, I don’t make the rules. 

    • #43
  14. jorge espinha Inactive
    jorge espinha
    @jorgeespinha

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    Happy days is about plot and fond memories of youth. So they get wrong season thar ginger head took part. So what?

    So, what else do they get wrong?

    That’s the question.

    You are welcome to fact check the show and post your report here. Please include two sources for every fact you check and dispute. Sorry, I don’t make the rules.

    I’m not invested in Happy Days. We all misremember stuff. The other day Michael Shermer was retelling a debate on TV between Frank Zappa and a Senator. About the content of lyrics. According the Shermer Frank Zappa says “it’s just words Senator. You have to get out more” I looked for the debate on YouTube. Frank Zappa does say “it’s only words Senator!” but it’s the Senator that says “you have to get out more” to Frank Zappa. This happens all the time. 

    • #44
  15. Blue Yeti Staff
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    GLoP gets results!

    • #45
  16. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    Wow, I’d heard in the Commentary podcast episode comments what an arse John is about people unwilling to be guinea pigs but never heard him rant. That was quite overblown for people who’ve come to a different medical decision than him. Pairs well with Jonah “Biden wouldn’t have to force you to get the shot if you’d just get the shot” Goldberg. They’ve sure embraced the media fear mongering. I’ll take John’s medical advice in the same way I take his political advice.

    • #46
  17. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Wow, I’d heard in the Commentary podcast episode comments what an arse John is about people unwilling to be guinea pigs but never heard him rant. That was quite overblown for people who’ve come to a different medical decision than him. Pairs well with Jonah “Biden wouldn’t have to force you to get the shot if you’d just get the shot” Goldberg. They’ve sure embraced the media fear mongering. I’ll take John’s medical advice in the same way I take his political advice.

    And his Happy Days advice. :-)

    • #47
  18. Randy Webster Inactive
    Randy Webster
    @RandyWebster

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Wow, I’d heard in the Commentary podcast episode comments what an arse John is about people unwilling to be guinea pigs but never heard him rant. That was quite overblown for people who’ve come to a different medical decision than him.

    John does it about once a week.  You just learn to ignore that part of the podcast.  What are you going to do?  He’s a moron calling you one.  Meh.

    • #48
  19. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Wow, I’d heard in the Commentary podcast episode comments what an arse John is about people unwilling to be guinea pigs but never heard him rant. That was quite overblown for people who’ve come to a different medical decision than him.

    John does it about once a week. You just learn to ignore that part of the podcast. What are you going to do? He’s a moron calling you one. Meh.

    I don’t listen to the Commentary podcast but notice when an episode in the podcast bar has many comments. This was my first time hearing it. This episode was entertaining and then that bomb landed. I’m comfortable in the control group and don’t pay attention to him.

    • #49
  20. jorge espinha Inactive
    jorge espinha
    @jorgeespinha

    I know why I listen to glop. I respect and admire, Rob, John and Jonah. I find them funny and intelligent. There are thousands of podcasts about culture and politics. For what I’m reading in the comments I’m the only fan. Why listen if you don’t like John and Jonah(Rob actually gets the wrond end of the stick because he’s ignored)?

    I listened to Bret Weinstein’s podcasts about the vaccines, I got scared but I checked with other sources, namely “science based medicine”. It’s crazy talk. Vaccines are safe and the bulk of the dead are unvaccinated people. People that leave behind love ones. I agree with John and Jonah. I lost almost two years of my life with this crap, it’s bad enough to deal with the government, health officials and the general panic of society, having to deal with anti vaxxers on top of all that is overwhelming.

    I’m disappointed with the way society at large accepted all the totalitarian measures. Vaccines are a way out and vaccines are safe and work.

    I don’t give a damn for small details that they might get wrong about the great magnum opus that was “happy days”. I’m more into finding out about obscure vaudeville actors of the silent era. John and Jonah man important conservative publications that contribute with much needed debate about conservative values. And Rob built Ricochet and has great snippets about Hollywood. If you don’t like it, you can always have the Federalist of Tucker Carlson 

    • #50
  21. neutral observer Thatcher
    neutral observer
    @neutralobserver

    Did anyone catch the name of the Instagram user that posts the old TV shows?  I think it ended in 3rd.

    • #51
  22. jorge espinha Inactive
    jorge espinha
    @jorgeespinha

    neutral observer (View Comment):

    Did anyone catch the name of the Instagram user that posts the old TV shows? I think it ended in 3rd.

    https://instagram.com/stories/len3rd/2675012066523416933?utm_medium=share_sheet

    • #52
  23. jorge espinha Inactive
    jorge espinha
    @jorgeespinha

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    Rob should get an Amazon Firestick. I was frustrated with all the rigmarole too. Now, I just say something like “Alexa, play Foundation” and voila, I am watching Foundation. Unfortunately Foundation really sucks though.

    I had to get the Firestick because my 2016 TV can’t download the AppleTV app. That’s another thing that drives me nuts.

    I have the same problem regarding the incompatibility of appletv and my tv set. Do you mean that with “firestick” you can bypass that difficulty?

    Yes. As long as you have a free HDMI slot. Then you can download all of the latest apps to the Firestick including AppleTV. It was really great when we spent a week at the beach recently too. I just took the Firestick with me and was able to access all my apps and subscriptions without having to navigate a strange TV and didn’t have to put in passwords, etc.

    Nice to have Alexa there too. I admit it. I am a Bezos slave ;)

    Thank you for the tip. I got the firestick (I had to meet a guy downtown, like I was buying drugs) and it works like a charm! 

    • #53
  24. OwnedByDogs Lincoln
    OwnedByDogs
    @JuliaBlaschke

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    Rob should get an Amazon Firestick. I was frustrated with all the rigmarole too. Now, I just say something like “Alexa, play Foundation” and voila, I am watching Foundation. Unfortunately Foundation really sucks though.

    I had to get the Firestick because my 2016 TV can’t download the AppleTV app. That’s another thing that drives me nuts.

    I have the same problem regarding the incompatibility of appletv and my tv set. Do you mean that with “firestick” you can bypass that difficulty?

    Yes. As long as you have a free HDMI slot. Then you can download all of the latest apps to the Firestick including AppleTV. It was really great when we spent a week at the beach recently too. I just took the Firestick with me and was able to access all my apps and subscriptions without having to navigate a strange TV and didn’t have to put in passwords, etc.

    Nice to have Alexa there too. I admit it. I am a Bezos slave ;)

    Thank you for the tip. I got the firestick (I had to meet a guy downtown, like I was buying drugs) and it works like a charm!

    I’m happy it works for you. A lot cheaper than buying a new TV!

    • #54
  25. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
    Gazpacho Grande'
    @ChrisCampion

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The things you guys fight about . . .

    Hey, getting across the “Don’t trust John Podhoretz” message is somewhat important.

    “Often-Wrong Podhoretz”?

    This is a podcast about three guys chewing the fat. So they get things wrong and they repeat stories. I’m so into this podcast that I went back to the beginning and listened to all available podcasts . And they repeat stuff and get things wrong has we do when we talk amongst friends. Even well researched podcasts get things wrong.

    But they’re wrong about . . . so much.

    Yes, and TV shows/movies are just one symptom. Also remember the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. Why should we take seriously anything they say about politics, economics, etc, when they can’t even be right about Happy Days?

    Well… Politics are about principles and values. They are conservatives and in my opinion they haven’t lost their way. First comes country, them conservative principles and finally the GOP. The party is just a tool. I have a party that I’m inclined to vote in Portugal but the party isn’t above ideas or the country.

    You should listen to the Commentary podcasts from last year, featuring JPlop, and get back to me.  Because I stopped listening due to John.

    However, the GLOP podcast always makes me laugh, so I listen.

    • #55
  26. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
    Gazpacho Grande'
    @ChrisCampion

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    I know why I listen to glop. I respect and admire, Rob, John and Jonah. I find them funny and intelligent. There are thousands of podcasts about culture and politics. For what I’m reading in the comments I’m the only fan. Why listen if you don’t like John and Jonah(Rob actually gets the wrond end of the stick because he’s ignored)?

    I listened to Bret Weinstein’s podcasts about the vaccines, I got scared but I checked with other sources, namely “science based medicine”. It’s crazy talk. Vaccines are safe and the bulk of the dead are unvaccinated people. People that leave behind love ones. I agree with John and Jonah. I lost almost two years of my life with this crap, it’s bad enough to deal with the government, health officials and the general panic of society, having to deal with anti vaxxers on top of all that is overwhelming.

    I’m disappointed with the way society at large accepted all the totalitarian measures. Vaccines are a way out and vaccines are safe and work.

    I don’t give a damn for small details that they might get wrong about the great magnum opus that was “happy days”. I’m more into finding out about obscure vaudeville actors of the silent era. John and Jonah man important conservative publications that contribute with much needed debate about conservative values. And Rob built Ricochet and has great snippets about Hollywood. If you don’t like it, you can always have the Federalist of Tucker Carlson

    Thanks for clarifying what my options are.  I would be lost, at sea, in a discussion of widow’s peaks, without your thoughtful guidance.

    • #56
  27. jorge espinha Inactive
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    @jorgeespinha

    Gazpacho Grande' (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The things you guys fight about . . .

    Hey, getting across the “Don’t trust John Podhoretz” message is somewhat important.

    “Often-Wrong Podhoretz”?

    This is a podcast about three guys chewing the fat. So they get things wrong and they repeat stories. I’m so into this podcast that I went back to the beginning and listened to all available podcasts . And they repeat stuff and get things wrong has we do when we talk amongst friends. Even well researched podcasts get things wrong.

    But they’re wrong about . . . so much.

    Yes, and TV shows/movies are just one symptom. Also remember the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. Why should we take seriously anything they say about politics, economics, etc, when they can’t even be right about Happy Days?

    Well… Politics are about principles and values. They are conservatives and in my opinion they haven’t lost their way. First comes country, them conservative principles and finally the GOP. The party is just a tool. I have a party that I’m inclined to vote in Portugal but the party isn’t above ideas or the country.

    You should listen to the Commentary podcasts from last year, featuring JPlop, and get back to me. Because I stopped listening due to John.

    However, the GLOP podcast always makes me laugh, so I listen.

    I believe I’ve listen to all commentary podcasts. But keep in mind that I’m not American and even though I take a great interest in your country’s politics I don’t have skin in the game. I can understand your position, I actually reserve my deepest scorn to right wing politicians and commentators in my country. But we should never forget the real and present danger comes from the left. We waste too much time battling over small differences. 

    • #57
  28. jorge espinha Inactive
    jorge espinha
    @jorgeespinha

    Gazpacho Grande' (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    I know why I listen to glop. I respect and admire, Rob, John and Jonah. I find them funny and intelligent. There are thousands of podcasts about culture and politics. For what I’m reading in the comments I’m the only fan. Why listen if you don’t like John and Jonah(Rob actually gets the wrond end of the stick because he’s ignored)?

    I listened to Bret Weinstein’s podcasts about the vaccines, I got scared but I checked with other sources, namely “science based medicine”. It’s crazy talk. Vaccines are safe and the bulk of the dead are unvaccinated people. People that leave behind love ones. I agree with John and Jonah. I lost almost two years of my life with this crap, it’s bad enough to deal with the government, health officials and the general panic of society, having to deal with anti vaxxers on top of all that is overwhelming.

    I’m disappointed with the way society at large accepted all the totalitarian measures. Vaccines are a way out and vaccines are safe and work.

    I don’t give a damn for small details that they might get wrong about the great magnum opus that was “happy days”. I’m more into finding out about obscure vaudeville actors of the silent era. John and Jonah man important conservative publications that contribute with much needed debate about conservative values. And Rob built Ricochet and has great snippets about Hollywood. If you don’t like it, you can always have the Federalist of Tucker Carlson

    Thanks for clarifying what my options are. I would be lost, at sea, in a discussion of widow’s peaks, without your thoughtful guidance.

    I must apologize. I’m using my phone and it’s less than optimal. It’s hard to write in English without sounding illeterate and editing is a bitch. I came accross as an idiot and I’m sorry. I also have a bad temper. Of course you don’t need my guidance. Desculpe! 

    • #58
  29. jorge espinha Inactive
    jorge espinha
    @jorgeespinha

     

    • #59
  30. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    I got a slapped together question for GLoP.

    • #60
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