Pick Out The Time Traveler

The men of GLoP reunite to discuss the hit Amazon Prime Video The Boys. Is it a parody? Is it an homage? Or just a dark comedy? We investigate (warning: there may be a minor spoiler or two in this segment). Also, when he was “Anonymous,” the New York Times described  Miles Taylor as a senior administration official. Spoiler alert: he was not senior and was likely not privy to any of the discussions he wrote about in the Times column or his book. We discuss. Also, is streaming really more popular than broadcast TV? Rob Long has some thoughts. Finally, who is the real Homer Simpson? GLoP debates. And yes, there is a bit of talk about the impending election (brace yourselves, commenters!), a mildly risqué joke that may or may not offend several billion people, and GLoP finally answers the question millions have pondered: what does former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich and mass killer Charles Manson have in common? We’re certainly not going to spoil that one.

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  1. Jon1979 Inactive
    Jon1979
    @Jon1979

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Ricochet Audio Network: We investigate (warning: there may be a minor spoiler opr twi in this segment)

    My guess is, that’s supposed to be “or two.”

    Besides Reagan’s speechwriter, maybe Ricochet hired Biden’s speechwriter.

    I think trunalimunumaprzure was one of the planets where the rebel alliance mobilized in “Return of the Jedi”.

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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    On a side note…

    Protecting their communities from what?

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  3. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS
    @user_54742

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    If you listen to Rob’s comments on the Ricochet Podcast, #518, The Home Stretch, it’s abundantly clear that he thinks that there is no existential threat to any freedoms from a potential Biden victory and that a Biden victory will continue to be simply a matter of policy changes that have merely a fiscal dimension and not really adversely affect foreign policy or the greater macro economy or unemployment – just a shifting back and forth of non-critical policy changes as he has perceived it for the last several decades. This is in line with Rob’s moral relativism as it pertains to Joe Biden specifically – that he’s dismissive of Biden’s criminal activity and graft because, you know, everybody in government engages in pay-to-play – so, what’s the big deal?

    Also – Never mind how radical the Democratic Party has become. Never mind that they’ve encouraged riots around the country and promoted the defunding of police. Never mind that they have released violent criminals who have been arrested so that they can engage in more violence. Never mind that want to more actively censor and criminalize speech. Never mind that they encourage and turn a blind eye to anarchists who want to tear down many of the nation’s monuments and institutions and that Antifa and BLM rioters are being used as tools by Democrats to threaten Americans and push a Marxist ideology that Democrats won’t condemn. None of this is addressed by Rob or Jonah or JPod. Most of their analysis is superficial at best and seems to be mired in an inside-the-beltway mindset of the past.

    Do the GLoP boys think that China will be restrained and more controllable from a Biden administration and from Joe specifically who has allegedly made millions of dollars from the Communist regime for himself and his family? Is Taiwan at risk in a Biden administration? Will Iran become resurgent in ratcheting up terror? Are they hoping for a Biden administration and hoping that Biden will end the regime of sanctions imposed upon them from the Trump administration? My guess is that’s what John Kerry, Secretary-of-State-for-Life and Biden confident will advise. Will Biden shuttle more palettes of cash in the dark of night to the mullahs? Will Joe apologize for the assassination of terror mastermind Soleimani? If Rob, Jonah, or JPod have addressed this specifically, please point me to it.

    Finally, the GLoP boys put a lot of stock in how member states of the EU think of Donald Trump (Rob did in a recent NRO submission) – the same nations who have owed their freedom from Soviet and Russian domination since WWII to the United States and have been embracing socialism. Should we really care what Angela Merkel thinks of Donald Trump? Not something I lose sleep over.

    My own addendum:

    If the (D) wins, watch the Durham Investigations get shut down or gutted, and watch as many of the same corrupt perpetrators of the Obama FBI/DOJ/IC corruption magically have their ruined careers resurrected. 

    It should be fun to watch the MSM announce, with a straight face,  Andrew Weissmann takes over at DOJ, and Peter Strzok takes over as FBI Deputy Director of Counter Intelligence, can’t wait to find Brennan and Clapper have switched CIA and DNI seats, how about Alexander Vindman in some high level Secretary of State post, etc.  …. should be delightful.

    These (D) thugs are currently so brazen and emboldened by the equally corrupt and complicit MSM/BigTech what’s to stop them from continuing where they left off with the Obama era corruption(ie: illegal spying on US Citizens and opposition political party campaigns , leaking, unmasking, etc.) and telling anyone who objects to go pound sand.

    The only thing we have to stop these corrupt thugs is the election this Tuesday, and in a sane world the GLoP guys would be able to recognize the dangers of putting Joe Biden in the White House.

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  4. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    I’m sure it must be nefarious.

    How’s your defense of the 538 Electoral Map coming along?

    Oh, I don’t think it’s nefarious. Not one bit. Seems to me it’s completely obvious why the Trafalgar cross tabs were taken down. I can only think of one reason a pollster would do that less than a week out.

    As for Silver’s EC map, can you give me the source/where you found it? I can’t find it on 538.com or on Silver’s Twitter feed. Would like to look at it myself before I comment on it.

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  5. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    My guess is that I can count them.

    Since March, John has been doing a podcast 5 days a week, and Jonah has been doing  2-4 shows a week for even longer. Start counting. 

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  6. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Sad that seeing a GLoP episode in my playlist used to bring joy. Now I have to check the comments to see how much irrational Trump hatred there is in a pop culture podcast and determine if it is worth slogging through. This one might be worth it.

    Ha! I’m doing that right now.

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  7. Brian Watt Inactive
    Brian Watt
    @BrianWatt

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    I’m sure it must be nefarious.

    How’s your defense of the 538 Electoral Map coming along?

    Oh, I don’t think it’s nefarious. Not one bit. Seems to me it’s completely obvious why the Trafalgar cross tabs were taken down. I can only think of one reason a pollster would do that less than a week out.

    As for Silver’s EC map, can you give me the source/where you found it? I can’t find it on 538.com or on Silver’s Twitter feed. Would like to look at it myself before I comment on it.

    Yes, it has magically disappeared. Strange that. Almost like the Trafalger cross tabs. I ran across it on Twitter on October 17th. So, not that long ago and took a screen grab of the map itself.

    This appears to be a more current 538 map that shows Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina and Florida going for Biden.

    https://www.270towin.com/maps/fivethirtyeight-2020-election-forecast

    To note: Not terribly different than the map I posted except they’ve conceded that Texas will probably go to Trump…so they may have modified their original projection.

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  8. Brian Watt Inactive
    Brian Watt
    @BrianWatt

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    My guess is that I can count them.

    Since March, John has been doing a podcast 5 days a week, and Jonah has been doing 2-4 shows a week for even longer. Start counting.

    See my Comment #29.

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  9. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    Yes, it has magically disappeared. Strange that. Almost like the Trafalger cross tabs. I ran across it on Twitter on October 17th. So, not that long ago and took a screen grab of the map itself.

    No, it’s not like the Trafalgar cross tabs, Brian. Silver –love him or hate him– has an entire site devoted to his work and provides a very clear guide to his methodology. An EC map he ran on Twitter two weeks ago is not the sum total of his work. Not by a long shot.

    On the other hand, The Trafalgar Group has a number of polls on their website but when you click through to read the methodology (on their most recent poll of Florida for example), you get very little supporting data on how they arrived at their conclusions  (Trump +2.1). Contrast this with say the data the Fox News poll that came out this afternoon provides. The difference is …something.

    I’ll happily grant you that Silver is partisan. Granted. But so is Trafalgar and only one of them is providing the backup to their work.

    You want to pin all your hopes and dreams on a poll that provides scant data on their methodology and procedures? Okey dokey  — it’s a free country. I’m not a statistician, but it seems pretty risky to me.

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  10. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    No one will probably see this, but here’s the now obligatory screen shot taken during the recording of this episode:

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  11. Jon1979 Inactive
    Jon1979
    @Jon1979

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    No one will probably see this, but here’s the now obligatory screen shot taken during the recording of this episode:

    Does that lighting mean Rob been placed into the witness protection program?

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  12. Brian Watt Inactive
    Brian Watt
    @BrianWatt

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    Yes, it has magically disappeared. Strange that. Almost like the Trafalger cross tabs. I ran across it on Twitter on October 17th. So, not that long ago and took a screen grab of the map itself.

    No, it’s not like the Trafalgar cross tabs, Brian. Silver –love him or hate him– has an entire site devoted to his work and provides a very clear guide to his methodology. An EC map he ran on Twitter two weeks ago is not the sum total of his work. Not by a long shot.

    On the other hand, The Trafalgar Group has a number of polls on their website but when you click through to read the methodology (on their most recent poll of Florida for example), you get very little supporting data on how they arrived at their conclusions (Trump +2.1). Contrast this with say the data the Fox News poll that came out this afternoon provides. The difference is …something.

    I’ll happily grant you that Silver is partisan. Granted. But so is Trafalgar and only one of them is providing the backup to their work.

    You want to pin all your hopes and dreams on a poll that provides scant data on their methodology and procedures? Fine by me — it’s a free country. I’m not a statistician, but it seems pretty risky to me.

    Tim Pool has some interesting insights on what’s happening in Florida. Worth a listen. H/T @occupantcdn

     

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  13. Dotorimuk Coolidge
    Dotorimuk
    @Dotorimuk

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Sad that seeing a GLoP episode in my playlist used to bring joy. Now I have to check the comments to see how much irrational Trump hatred there is in a pop culture podcast and determine if it is worth slogging through. This one might be worth it.

    They’re all a little giddy at the thought of a Biden presidency, but it was a fun episode. I admit I hit the skip button when the Game of Thrones discussions start.

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  14. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Hey, @brianwatt — How much longer do we have to take this guy seriously?

     

    • #44
  15. Brian Watt Inactive
    Brian Watt
    @BrianWatt

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Hey, @brianwatt — How much longer do we have to take this guy seriously?

     

    Don’t worry…it will all be over soon, and then you can start consoling the GLoP boys as they cry into your shoulder…remotely, of course…via Zoom…somehow.

    • #45
  16. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Don’t worry…it will all be over soon, and then you can start consoling the GLoP boys as they cry into your shoulder…remotely, of course…via Zoom…somehow.

    One, I’m not worried; and two, you dodged my question. Your pollster of choice — the guy who you say is seeing something that just about every other pollster is missing on a gigantic scale– thinks Kanye West is preventing the President of the United States from winning Minnesota. 

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  17. Brian Watt Inactive
    Brian Watt
    @BrianWatt

    Question…Is it safe to assume that Democrat Early Voters are 100% voting for Biden when roughly 20 t0 30% of Trump rally attendees are Democrats? Is it safer to assume that upwards of 97% of Republicans are voting for Trump since there has been no deviation in that number for many months? 

    If the DNC isn’t spending any more effort to GOTV in Florida, does that indicate that they are confident that Florida is in the bag for them or just the opposite – that they’ve given up and are moving resources to the Midwest? Is that why the Biden campaign is instead concentrating efforts in Minnesota to keep it blue? Shouldn’t Minnesota be a reliable Democrat stronghold? Or are they getting feedback from Minnesota campaign operatives that the state could go for Trump? Shouldn’t Michigan and Wisconsin be reliable wins for Biden – isn’t that what the RCP averages in those states has been indicating for the past few months? Or is the Biden campaign more panicked about what’s happening on the ground?

    I guess we’ll have the answers to these questions on Wednesday-ish or later depending on court challenges.

    Re: Pennsylvania – My understanding is that fraud is still a very real possibility since the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that ballot signatures don’t have to match with the registered voter’s signature on file. Given the timeframe, SCOTUS isn’t likely to overturn that decision…so Cahaly’s warning about voter fraud should not be dismissed as crazy talk. 

    Granted there may be those who don’t like his bow tie or the way he parts his hair.

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  18. Brian Watt Inactive
    Brian Watt
    @BrianWatt

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Don’t worry…it will all be over soon, and then you can start consoling the GLoP boys as they cry into your shoulder…remotely, of course…via Zoom…somehow.

    One, I’m not worried; and two, you dodged my question. Your pollster of choice — the guy who you say is seeing something that just about every other pollster is missing on a gigantic scale– thinks Kanye West is preventing the President of the United States from winning Minnesota.

    I think one can interpret Cahaly’s remark that Kanye’s name on the ballot is more of an irritant than a help. I wouldn’t get too excited about it. No more ridiculous than some of the projections about double-digit Biden leads in several battleground states, like the recent ABC/WaPo poll that had Biden up in Wisconsin by 17 points.

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  19. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    All the “smart” people have been telling us all summer that the biggest threat to the nation is QAnon.

    They also have these polls they’d like you to see.

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  20. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS
    @user_54742

    These quislings hate Trump so much that this is the guy they prefer instead?

    Do not get it …. never did.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/10/a-collusion-tale-the-bidens-and-china/

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  21. Architectus Coolidge
    Architectus
    @Architectus

     

    “If Clinton were to beat her polls by 3 points … you see something we call a borderline landslide. But if it goes the other way … all of a sudden Trump could very easily win the Electoral College,” he said. Huh. That’s weird, because he appears to describe a full two days before the election pretty much EXACTLY what happened. Please continue on, Nate…

    None of Silver’s comments are surprising, or all that insightful. He is hedging, which any statistician would do when making predictions. She could win or he could win: Hey look! I was right! 

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  22. Architectus Coolidge
    Architectus
    @Architectus

    Architectus (View Comment):

     

    “If Clinton were to beat her polls by 3 points … you see something we call a borderline landslide. But if it goes the other way … all of a sudden Trump could very easily win the Electoral College,” he said. Huh. That’s weird, because he appears to describe a full two days before the election pretty much EXACTLY what happened. Please continue on, Nate…

    None of Silver’s comments are surprising, or all that insightful. He is hedging, which any statistician would do when making predictions. She could win or he could win: Hey look! I was right!

    By the way, applying my “Binary Choice Theory (TM)” on presidential elections (a theory attacked by many), whereupon I have posited that one of the 2 major party candidates will win in each election, I have never been wrong in my lifetime.  Why am I not being featured as a talking head on all the political talk shows?!? 

    • #52
  23. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Architectus (View Comment):

    Architectus (View Comment):

     

    “If Clinton were to beat her polls by 3 points … you see something we call a borderline landslide. But if it goes the other way … all of a sudden Trump could very easily win the Electoral College,” he said. Huh. That’s weird, because he appears to describe a full two days before the election pretty much EXACTLY what happened. Please continue on, Nate…

    None of Silver’s comments are surprising, or all that insightful. He is hedging, which any statistician would do when making predictions. She could win or he could win: Hey look! I was right!

    By the way, applying my “Binary Choice Theory (TM)” on presidential elections (a theory attacked by many), whereupon I have posited that one of the 2 major party candidates will win in each election, I have never been wrong in my lifetime. Why am I not being featured as a talking head on all the political talk shows?!?

    I’ve always figured the chances of something happening are either 0, or 100%, depending on whether or not it happens.

    Hey look, I’m a genius too!

    • #53
  24. Architectus Coolidge
    Architectus
    @Architectus

    One more thing…  I know that GLoP in not supposed to be about actual serious topics, but they wandered into a Section 230 issue, with predictable results.  Mostly virtue signaling about how you have to be nuts to think that modifying Section 230 protections is a good idea, and how NOTHING CAN BE DONE about these companies. Though Rob did move in a more rational direction at the end.  Lost in their reflexive dismissal of anything they disagree with as crazy, is the case made by Andrew C. McCarthy (10/20/2020) of National Review (and me!) , that modest revisions are warranted, but mostly we just need to properly apply the Section 230 provisions to these companies, as originally intended.  Do you want to continue to enjoy the benefit of immunity from lawsuits?  Fine, act like a platform not a publisher, and only regulate things like obscenity, which everyone knows does not include political opinions that you disagree with.  Want to continue to act like a partisan publisher?  That’s perfectly fine also, but learn to live by the rules that other publishers must, and be subject to lawsuits when you get out of line.  It’s not that complicated.  

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  25. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    These quislings hate Trump so much that this is the guy they prefer instead?

    Do not get it …. never did.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/10/a-collusion-tale-the-bidens-and-china/

    Some people’s egos don’t permit them to admit they’re wrong. Instead they just double down, becoming more and more detached from reality.

    For Rob Long, attacking Trump keeps alive, just barely, his hopes of a Hollywood comeback.

    • #55
  26. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Taras (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    These quislings hate Trump so much that this is the guy they prefer instead?

    Do not get it …. never did.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/10/a-collusion-tale-the-bidens-and-china/

    Some people’s egos don’t permit them to admit they’re wrong. Instead they just double down, becoming more and more detached from reality.

    For Rob Long, attacking Trump keeps alive, just barely, his hopes of a Hollywood comeback.

    Both that Hollywood might come back, and that by showing he opposed Trump, they’ll let him back in.

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  27. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
    Gazpacho Grande'
    @ChrisCampion

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    For the record, here is the 538 (Nate Silver’s) projection for this election. This is the same group that missed spectacularly in 2016. This is the same election analysis group that so impresses the GLoP boys that it’s the only “polling” firm that JPod references in the podcast.

    If you’d like to read a more adult take on what’s happening this year regarding polling, media coverage and the bias of commentariat, I would recommend that you follow Mollie Hemingway. Here’s her latest on The Federalist: Yes, Media Are Rigging the Election Against Half the Country, Here’s How. Pay particular note to the section: Slavish Devotion to Obviously Wrong Polling.

    That is all. Continue with your smug chortling.

    Real Clear Politics has AZ for Trump now, just barely.

    So, if we’re going to slavishly devote ourselves to what polling tells us – despite very recent history telling us how spectacularly wrong it can be – at least include the full boat of info before, again, summarily telling us that it’s over.

    Just like they did before.  I get it, I still think it’s a Biden win, but that was a weird discussion/projection as to how people see the election as a movie.  What’s more likely:  A couple of guys who follow the politics daily, so closely, that they develop their own affinity for it, or 300 million people fit into a simple box coughed up by the same two or three guys and the polls they watch all day?

    Hm.  I wonder.

    • #57
  28. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
    Gazpacho Grande'
    @ChrisCampion

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Sad that seeing a GLoP episode in my playlist used to bring joy. Now I have to check the comments to see how much irrational Trump hatred there is in a pop culture podcast and determine if it is worth slogging through. This one might be worth it.

    It’s worth it!  Aside from some of the polling discussion, which I still think is interesting (ultimately, pointless and useless, as polls don’t change votes), I laughed a lot in this episode.

    Good stuff.

    • #58
  29. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
    Gazpacho Grande'
    @ChrisCampion

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    @blueyeti – Defend the 538 map, please.

    Regarding the collapse of the Blue Wall in 2016, it certainly was not attributable only to James Comey’s announcement. Trump throughout the campaign had been appealing to blue collar voters in the Midwest and many of those who voted for Obama twice voted for Trump – the dismal or nebulous (smoke and mirrors) Obama economic “recovery” certainly played a factor. Then, of course, there’s Hillary’s dismissal of those Midwestern states by refusing to campaign there in the last few months of the campaign BEFORE Comey’s announcement, when her own campaign organizations on the ground in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio were begging the New York HQ for the Clinton campaign to get her butt out there because they had already detected a momentum shift for Trump.

    So, no I’m not buying that Comey’s announcement was the pivotal game changer.

    As mentioned by the pundits in the pod, those “game-changers”, even late in the game where change is occurring, don’t swing voters in enormous waves.  It doesn’t change votes for people who have already made up their mind.  It changes some votes at the margin, and that may have a bigger impact in some states vs. others.

    We’re always talking about the middle.  How many, in the middle, are actually paying enough attention to politics where they would switch their vote, if they even read the story (like the Comey example)?

    How many?  10%?  50%?  Half the middle?  Depending on how big the middle is, undecideds maybe, that’s really more likely than not to be a small number.

    But hey – be honest, per Yeti.  Yeti is asking us to be honest in our feelings about unprovable theoreticals that one can only speculate upon, but if one has read Locke, one’s conclusions must somehow now be more valid.

    Maybe I’ll just read a book this afternoon and this will somehow bolster the logic of my arguments, arguments and conclusions which will become more likely to occur because of said book-reading.

    • #59
  30. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
    Gazpacho Grande'
    @ChrisCampion

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    On a side note…

    Per some reasoning done earlier, this should swing votes Biden’s way.  It will convince voters in the middle that when Antifa sets fires to their business, it’s in defense of the community.

    • #60
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