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  1. jorge espinha Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    But he’s an honest man, married, faithful, and hardworking with a beautiful daughter and a kind wife.

    Why is he hardworking if he claims to be a socialist?

    One of the biggest problems in some of these areas is people whose supposed beliefs don’t match their own behavior. It is highly destructive to recognize the value of work and education etc for oneself, but not expecting others – especially “minorities” – to have similar standards. “The soft bigotry of low expectations” etc.

    He’s not that kind of socialist. And I’m using the European definition. He isn’t a communist. Socialist as in Social Democrat. My father-in-law voted in the socialist party most of his life.  He also worked really hard all his life in order to put his 4 daughters and son through college.  He only has a 4th grade education. He doesn’t have a different set of standards for other people. 

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    But he’s an honest man, married, faithful, and hardworking with a beautiful daughter and a kind wife.

    Why is he hardworking if he claims to be a socialist?

    One of the biggest problems in some of these areas is people whose supposed beliefs don’t match their own behavior. It is highly destructive to recognize the value of work and education etc for oneself, but not expecting others – especially “minorities” – to have similar standards. “The soft bigotry of low expectations” etc.

    He’s not that kind of socialist. And I’m using the European definition. He isn’t a communist. Socialist as in Social Democrat. My father-in-law voted in the socialist party most of his life. He also worked really hard all his life in order to put his 4 daughters and son through college. He only has a 4th grade education. He doesn’t have a different set of standards for other people.

    Then why be socialist?  Or perhaps more to the point, why claim to be that way, and to vote that way, if people aren’t actually LIVING that way themselves?  I’m obviously missing something.

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  3. Blue Yeti Admin
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    @ blueyeti — What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.

    (Attributed to Vice President Dan Quayle.)

    Dude, my mind is fine.

    But projection is a hell of drug.

    OK, don’t listen to what I have to say about the January 6 committee.

    But listen to Byron York and Mollie Hemingway.

    I was just in a room with the two of them 4 weeks ago. I listen to them all the time. And they have never once questioned my mental state. Not once. 

    And that’s what I really dislike about this type of conversation. Anyone who has the temerity to disapprove of Donald Trump’s behavior, his ethics, his morality, or his choice of verbiage automatically gets labeled as “deranged” or a “wasteful mind” or some sort of Liberal lackey. Or worse, their patriotism or party loyalty is called into question. 

    That’s not an argument, it’s not debate, it’s not persuasion. It’s name calling, it’s junior high school level peer pressure,  and it’s quite frankly, it’s insulting. And I’m sick of it.

    As are I suspect, a majority of voters.  Just like they were in 2020. Just more now. 

     

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

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    @ blueyeti — What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.

    (Attributed to Vice President Dan Quayle.)

    Dude, my mind is fine.

    But projection is a hell of drug.

    OK, don’t listen to what I have to say about the January 6 committee.

    But listen to Byron York and Mollie Hemingway.

    I was just in a room with the two of them 4 weeks ago. I listen to them all the time. And they have never once questioned my mental state. Not once.

    And that’s what I really dislike about this type of conversation. Anyone who has the temerity to disapprove of Donald Trump’s behavior, his ethics, his morality, or his choice of verbiage automatically gets labeled as “deranged” or a “wasteful mind” or some sort of Liberal lackey. Or worse, their patriotism or party loyalty is called into question.

    That’s not an argument, it’s not debate, it’s not persuasion. It’s name calling, it’s junior high school level peer pressure, and it’s quite frankly, it’s insulting. And I’m sick of it.

    As are I suspect, a majority of voters. Just like they were in 2020. Just more now.

     

    Uh oh Taras, he’s one of those people who believes 81 million legitimate voters actually voted for Creepy Joe.

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  5. jorge espinha Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    But he’s an honest man, married, faithful, and hardworking with a beautiful daughter and a kind wife.

    Why is he hardworking if he claims to be a socialist?

    One of the biggest problems in some of these areas is people whose supposed beliefs don’t match their own behavior. It is highly destructive to recognize the value of work and education etc for oneself, but not expecting others – especially “minorities” – to have similar standards. “The soft bigotry of low expectations” etc.

    He’s not that kind of socialist. And I’m using the European definition. He isn’t a communist. Socialist as in Social Democrat. My father-in-law voted in the socialist party most of his life. He also worked really hard all his life in order to put his 4 daughters and son through college. He only has a 4th grade education. He doesn’t have a different set of standards for other people.

    Then why be socialist? Or perhaps more to the point, why claim to be that way, and to vote that way, if people aren’t actually LIVING that way themselves? I’m obviously missing something.

    Because my country was a right-wing dictatorship for 48 years, and people were dirt poor. And once you have a right-wing dictatorship it contaminates all the right political spectrum. And the welfare state that was constructed afterwards did ameliorate the lives of millions. Anyway, my point is that it’s a big mistake to treat political opponents as enemies. My background was different. My family moved to Africa at the beginning of the XX century and were entrepreneurs, after the end of the empire we moved to Portugal and were greeted by left-wing radicals that treated us like crap. We lost everything. So I was fed anti-communism at home and taught to hate the state. Different circumstances produce different outcomes. I disagree with my father and brother in-laws but they are decent hardworking people. They just think differently.

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    But he’s an honest man, married, faithful, and hardworking with a beautiful daughter and a kind wife.

    Why is he hardworking if he claims to be a socialist?

    One of the biggest problems in some of these areas is people whose supposed beliefs don’t match their own behavior. It is highly destructive to recognize the value of work and education etc for oneself, but not expecting others – especially “minorities” – to have similar standards. “The soft bigotry of low expectations” etc.

    He’s not that kind of socialist. And I’m using the European definition. He isn’t a communist. Socialist as in Social Democrat. My father-in-law voted in the socialist party most of his life. He also worked really hard all his life in order to put his 4 daughters and son through college. He only has a 4th grade education. He doesn’t have a different set of standards for other people.

    Then why be socialist? Or perhaps more to the point, why claim to be that way, and to vote that way, if people aren’t actually LIVING that way themselves? I’m obviously missing something.

    Because my country was a right-wing dictatorship for 48 years, and people were dirt poor. And once you have a right-wing dictatorship it contaminates all the right political spectrum. And the welfare state that was constructed afterwards did ameliorate the lives of millions. Anyway, my point is that it’s a big mistake to treat political opponents as enemies. My background was different. My family moved to Africa at the beginning of the XX century and were entrepreneurs, after the end of the empire we moved to Portugal and were greeted by left-wing radicals that treated us like crap. We lost everything. So I was fed anti-communism at home and taught to hate the state. Different circumstances produce different outcomes. I disagree with my father and brother in-laws but they are decent hardworking people. They just think differently.

    Okay but what about the likelihood that if they were actually able to get their way, the country you love would be destroyed?

    Many years ago (long before such things became at least quasi-legal) I had a “blind date” with a woman who liked to talk about how she grew lots of marijuana with special lights and stuff, in her house, and how she loved traveling all over the country and the wonderful people she met all over, including simple country folk etc…  I asked her how wonderful she thought those people would be if she had been honest about what she did and suddenly they wanted her to be thrown in prison.

    But they just think differently, I guess.

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  7. jorge espinha Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    But he’s an honest man, married, faithful, and hardworking with a beautiful daughter and a kind wife.

     

    Then why be socialist? Or perhaps more to the point, why claim to be that way, and to vote that way, if people aren’t actually LIVING that way themselves? I’m obviously missing something.

     

    Okay but what about the likelihood that if they were actually able to get their way, the country you love would be destroyed?

    Many years ago (long before such things became at least quasi-legal) I had a “blind date” with a woman who liked to talk about how she grew lots of marijuana with special lights and stuff, in her house, and how she loved traveling all over the country and the wonderful people she met all over, including simple country folk etc… I asked her how wonderful she thought those people would be if she had been honest about what she did and suddenly they wanted her to be thrown in prison.

    But they just think differently, I guess.

    (I had to erase some text due to word limit) The left-wing population in our countries isn’t going anywhere. Not everything has to do with politics. You are making the same mistake as the woke mob. I’m actually looking forward that the left screws the country for good. The system doesn’t work and that would be the definite proof. Kevin Williamson has said something similar about your country. I’m not right about everything and lots of decent people are wrong about a number of things. For example, America hasn’t recognized yet the superiority of football (soccer) and the metric system. But there is hope. 

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    But he’s an honest man, married, faithful, and hardworking with a beautiful daughter and a kind wife.

     

    Then why be socialist? Or perhaps more to the point, why claim to be that way, and to vote that way, if people aren’t actually LIVING that way themselves? I’m obviously missing something.

     

    Okay but what about the likelihood that if they were actually able to get their way, the country you love would be destroyed?

    Many years ago (long before such things became at least quasi-legal) I had a “blind date” with a woman who liked to talk about how she grew lots of marijuana with special lights and stuff, in her house, and how she loved traveling all over the country and the wonderful people she met all over, including simple country folk etc… I asked her how wonderful she thought those people would be if she had been honest about what she did and suddenly they wanted her to be thrown in prison.

    But they just think differently, I guess.

    (I had to erase some text due to word limit) The left-wing population in our countries isn’t going anywhere. Not everything has to do with politics. You are making the same mistake as the woke mob. I’m actually looking forward that the left screws the country for good. The system doesn’t work and that would be the definite proof. Kevin Williamson has said something similar about your country. I’m not right about everything and lots of decent people are wrong about a number of things. For example, America hasn’t recognized yet the superiority of football (soccer) and the metric system. But there is hope.

    Yeah, the metric system was absolutely crucial to landing on the Moon, etc.

    Not.

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  9. jorge espinha Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    But he’s an honest man, married, faithful, and hardworking with a beautiful daughter and a kind wife.

     

    Then why be socialist? Or perhaps more to the point, why claim to be that way, and to vote that way, if people aren’t actually LIVING that way themselves? I’m obviously missing something.

     

    Okay but what about the likelihood that if they were actually able to get their way, the country you love would be destroyed?

    Many years ago (long before such things became at least quasi-legal) I had a “blind date” with a woman who liked to talk about how she grew lots of marijuana with special lights and stuff, in her house, and how she loved traveling all over the country and the wonderful people she met all over, including simple country folk etc… I asked her how wonderful she thought those people would be if she had been honest about what she did and suddenly they wanted her to be thrown in prison.

    But they just think differently, I guess.

    (I had to erase some text due to word limit) The left-wing population in our countries isn’t going anywhere. Not everything has to do with politics. You are making the same mistake as the woke mob. I’m actually looking forward that the left screws the country for good. The system doesn’t work and that would be the definite proof. Kevin Williamson has said something similar about your country. I’m not right about everything and lots of decent people are wrong about a number of things. For example, America hasn’t recognized yet the superiority of football (soccer) and the metric system. But there is hope.

    Yeah, the metric system was absolutely crucial to landing on the Moon, etc.

    Not.

    So, you agree about soccer? Good. 

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  10. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

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    Taras (View Comment):

    @ blueyeti — What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.

    (Attributed to Vice President Dan Quayle.)

    Dude, my mind is fine.

    But projection is a hell of drug.

    OK, don’t listen to what I have to say about the January 6 committee.

    But listen to Byron York and Mollie Hemingway.

    I was just in a room with the two of them 4 weeks ago. I listen to them all the time. And they have never once questioned my mental state. Not once.

    And that’s what I really dislike about this type of conversation. Anyone who has the temerity to disapprove of Donald Trump’s behavior, his ethics, his morality, or his choice of verbiage automatically gets labeled as “deranged” or a “wasteful mind” or some sort of Liberal lackey. Or worse, their patriotism or party loyalty is called into question.

    That’s not an argument, it’s not debate, it’s not persuasion. It’s name calling, it’s junior high school level peer pressure, and it’s quite frankly, it’s insulting. And I’m sick of it.

    As are I suspect, a majority of voters. Just like they were in 2020. Just more now.

    I can agree with you – a little. I think people can find the disreputable aspects of Donald Trump unpleasant, and are free not to support him for any of those reasons. I think we should call your attention to the facts when democrat politicians or their surrogates use similar verbiage. IF Mitt Romeny had responded to the unjust attacks of Obama, the democrat media complex and democrat surrogates with just 1% of the backbone that Donald Trump musters on a regular basis, he could have been president. We should also point out, that as much as Donald Trump was disreputable, I think he was better candidate than the alternatives (In the general elections).

    Could you imagine the media storm if any of the Trump kids acted like the Biden adult children?

    Also, you shouldn’t question the mental capacity or fitness of those who question the outcome of the 2020 election. There are plenty of good reasons to question the fairness of the process and outcome of that election. Just as you feel unjustly harangued for your anti-Trumpism – so do those who can’t believe that a potato won the election fairly.

    So lets make a truce. No more personal attacks on Anti-Trumpers or Election fortification spotters. Both have legitimate points of view, and both should be respected for them. (except for Max Boot – he’s just nuts ;)

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    @ blueyeti — What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.

    (Attributed to Vice President Dan Quayle.)

    Dude, my mind is fine.

    But projection is a hell of drug.

    OK, don’t listen to what I have to say about the January 6 committee.

    But listen to Byron York and Mollie Hemingway.

    I was just in a room with the two of them 4 weeks ago. I listen to them all the time. And they have never once questioned my mental state. Not once.

    And that’s what I really dislike about this type of conversation. Anyone who has the temerity to disapprove of Donald Trump’s behavior, his ethics, his morality, or his choice of verbiage automatically gets labeled as “deranged” or a “wasteful mind” or some sort of Liberal lackey. Or worse, their patriotism or party loyalty is called into question.

    That’s not an argument, it’s not debate, it’s not persuasion. It’s name calling, it’s junior high school level peer pressure, and it’s quite frankly, it’s insulting. And I’m sick of it.

    As are I suspect, a majority of voters. Just like they were in 2020. Just more now.

    I can agree with you – a little. I think people can find the disreputable aspects of Donald Trump unpleasant, and are free not to support him for any of those reasons. I think we should call your attention to the facts when democrat politicians or their surrogates use similar verbiage. IF Mitt Romeny had responded to the unjust attacks of Obama, the democrat media complex and democrat surrogates with just 1% of the backbone that Donald Trump musters on a regular basis, he could have been president. We should also point out, that as much as Donald Trump was disreputable, I think he was better candidate than the alternatives (In the general elections).

    Could you imagine the media storm if any of the Trump kids acted like the Biden adult children?

    Also, you shouldn’t question the mental capacity or fitness of those who question the outcome of the 2020 election. There are plenty of good reasons to question the fairness of the process and outcome of that election. Just as you feel unjustly harangued for your anti-Trumpism – so do those who can’t believe that a potato won the election fairly.

    So lets make a truce. No more personal attacks on Anti-Trumpers or Election fortification spotters. Both have legitimate points of view, and both should be respected for them. (except for Max Boot – he’s just nuts ;)

    Problem is, questioning election integrity even a little, makes some people very uncomfortable.  And they won’t have it.

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  12. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Problem is, questioning election integrity even a little, makes some people very uncomfortable.  And they won’t have it.

    Yes. I have a word for those people. Guilty.

    Donald Trump knew he did nothing wrong in 2016 – so the democrats in congress spent millions of dollars, thousands of man hours investigating the 2016 election – from the Russia Hoax on – and they found nothing.

    Republicans have issues with the 2020 election – congress and the court house have been locked up tight. They can’t get a hearing let alone an investigation. Who does that? People with guilty minds.

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  13. Taras Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Problem is, questioning election integrity even a little, makes some people very uncomfortable. And they won’t have it.

    Yes. I have a word for those people. Guilty.

    Donald Trump knew he did nothing wrong in 2016 – so the democrats in congress spent millions of dollars, thousands of man hours investigating the 2016 election – from the Russia Hoax on – and they found nothing.

    Republicans have issues with the 2020 election – congress and the court house have been locked up tight. They can’t get a hearing let alone an investigation. Who does that? People with guilty minds.

    Disinformation actually means two different things:  1) false information; and 2) true but dangerous information.

    At the beginning of the epidemic, for example, urging people to wear masks was in the latter category.  Until quite recently, the lab leak hypothesis was, too.

    Questioning any details about global warming is another:  activists believe people won’t do what’s necessary sans panic.

    Questioning the source of some of Joe Biden’s 81 million ballots also comes under the heading of true but dangerous.  You don’t want to “destroy people’s faith in democracy”, do you?

    Like Richard Nixon in 1960 (another time someone wildly incompetent was “elected” President), a Republican candidate is required to fall on his sword for the sake of the country.

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Problem is, questioning election integrity even a little, makes some people very uncomfortable. And they won’t have it.

    Yes. I have a word for those people. Guilty.

    Donald Trump knew he did nothing wrong in 2016 – so the democrats in congress spent millions of dollars, thousands of man hours investigating the 2016 election – from the Russia Hoax on – and they found nothing.

    Republicans have issues with the 2020 election – congress and the court house have been locked up tight. They can’t get a hearing let alone an investigation. Who does that? People with guilty minds.

    Disinformation actually means two different things: 1) false information; and 2) true but dangerous information.

    At the beginning of the epidemic, for example, urging people to wear masks was in the latter category. Until quite recently, the lab leak hypothesis was, too.

    Questioning any details about global warming is another: activists believe people won’t do what’s necessary sans panic.

    Questioning the source of some of Joe Biden’s 81 million ballots also comes under the heading of true but dangerous. You don’t want to “destroy people’s faith in democracy”, do you?

    Like Richard Nixon in 1960 (another time someone wildly incompetent was “elected” President), a Republican candidate is required to fall on his sword for the sake of destroying the country.

    There you go.

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  15. jorge espinha Inactive
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    I will talk about culture.

    Rob Long points out correctly that the biggest shows on offer in the streaming platforms came from network tv. NETFLIX made a good part of its fortune with “Friends” and the like.  Yet, I browse over the several channels I have in my cable subscription and I find very little worth seeing. Comparing streaming with the entire body of work of network tv is a bit like comparing the entire history of literature with this year’s releases. 

    I have too many streaming subscriptions, NETFLIX, HBO, DISNEY, AMAZON and APPLE TV. And I haven’t seen all the things worth seeing (and I will never will). I recently aborted my viewing of “BILLIONS”, in the third season, I couldn’t stand the “good guys”. The United States attorney for the southern district of NY makes me cheer for the criminals. Does anybody share my dislike for Billions?

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  16. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    I have too many streaming subscriptions, NETFLIX, HBO, DISNEY, AMAZON and APPLE TV. And I haven’t seen all the things worth seeing (and I will never will). I recently aborted my viewing of “BILLIONS”, in the third season, I couldn’t stand the “good guys”. The United States attorney for the southern district of NY makes me cheer for the criminals. Does anybody share my dislike for Billions?

    No, but I understand that the ‘good guys’ are not the SDNY. The point I dislike about Billions is that they show all this corruption in NYC and NY state – but never ever say that all these corrupt politicians are democrats.

    Billions is a modern drama with ‘nuanced’ characters, there are no clear good guys or bad guys. For the most part its just a bunch of deeply flawed people attempting to get one over on their victims.

     

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  17. Henry Castaigne Member
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    I have too many streaming subscriptions, NETFLIX, HBO, DISNEY, AMAZON and APPLE TV. And I haven’t seen all the things worth seeing (and I will never will). I recently aborted my viewing of “BILLIONS”, in the third season, I couldn’t stand the “good guys”. The United States attorney for the southern district of NY makes me cheer for the criminals. Does anybody share my dislike for Billions?

    No, but I understand that the ‘good guys’ are not the SDNY. The point I dislike about Billions is that they show all this corruption in NYC and NY state – but never ever say that all these corrupt politicians are democrats.

    Billions is a modern drama with ‘nuanced’ characters, there are no clear good guys or bad guys. For the most part its just a bunch of deeply flawed people attempting to get one over on their victims.

    Even when they make a good series like The Boys they ruin it with Wokeness.

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  18. jorge espinha Inactive
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    I have too many streaming subscriptions, NETFLIX, HBO, DISNEY, AMAZON and APPLE TV. And I haven’t seen all the things worth seeing (and I will never will). I recently aborted my viewing of “BILLIONS”, in the third season, I couldn’t stand the “good guys”. The United States attorney for the southern district of NY makes me cheer for the criminals. Does anybody share my dislike for Billions?

    No, but I understand that the ‘good guys’ are not the SDNY. The point I dislike about Billions is that they show all this corruption in NYC and NY state – but never ever say that all these corrupt politicians are democrats.

    Billions is a modern drama with ‘nuanced’ characters, there are no clear good guys or bad guys. For the most part its just a bunch of deeply flawed people attempting to get one over on their victims.

    Even when they make a good series like The Boys they ruin it with Wokeness.

    When I say “good guys” I mean the “law”. I realise that both sides are ambiguous and flawed. But I was irked by the room where the “resistance would operate” and the trans character. Funny that the show, at least until the mid of the third season has no important gay character but has a “trans”. A woman that has sex with a male but is trans. Makes sense. 

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  19. jorge espinha Inactive
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    I have too many streaming subscriptions, NETFLIX, HBO, DISNEY, AMAZON and APPLE TV. And I haven’t seen all the things worth seeing (and I will never will). I recently aborted my viewing of “BILLIONS”, in the third season, I couldn’t stand the “good guys”. The United States attorney for the southern district of NY makes me cheer for the criminals. Does anybody share my dislike for Billions?

    No, but I understand that the ‘good guys’ are not the SDNY. The point I dislike about Billions is that they show all this corruption in NYC and NY state – but never ever say that all these corrupt politicians are democrats.

    Billions is a modern drama with ‘nuanced’ characters, there are no clear good guys or bad guys. For the most part its just a bunch of deeply flawed people attempting to get one over on their victims.

     

    When I said, “good guys” I meant the “law”. It’s very obvious the politicians are Democrats, and you may have noticed when there’s a political change. The big man in Washington changes and he’s a Texan guy all swagger and common sense. He’s clearly a Republican and he’s a bad guy with no nuances. Anyway, quit the series mid-third season. There are other things to see. My brother tells me “This city is ours” is great “wired” quality great. 

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    I have too many streaming subscriptions, NETFLIX, HBO, DISNEY, AMAZON and APPLE TV. And I haven’t seen all the things worth seeing (and I will never will). I recently aborted my viewing of “BILLIONS”, in the third season, I couldn’t stand the “good guys”. The United States attorney for the southern district of NY makes me cheer for the criminals. Does anybody share my dislike for Billions?

    No, but I understand that the ‘good guys’ are not the SDNY. The point I dislike about Billions is that they show all this corruption in NYC and NY state – but never ever say that all these corrupt politicians are democrats.

    Billions is a modern drama with ‘nuanced’ characters, there are no clear good guys or bad guys. For the most part its just a bunch of deeply flawed people attempting to get one over on their victims.

     

    When I said, “good guys” I meant the “law”. It’s very obvious the politicians are Democrats, and you may have noticed when there’s a political change. The big man in Washington changes and he’s a Texan guy all swagger and common sense. He’s clearly a Republican and he’s a bad guy with no nuances. Anyway, quit the series mid-third season. There are other things to see. My brother tells me “This city is ours” is great “wired” quality great.

    Yes, I noticed that… But no matter how bad the ‘big guy’ is. Chuck was more than willing to dig deeper, to be more petty and worse… Like parking a sewage train near the ‘big guys’ vacation home…

     

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  21. Taras Coolidge
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    @ blueyeti — What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.

    (Attributed to Vice President Dan Quayle.)

    Dude, my mind is fine.

    But projection is a hell of drug.

    OK, don’t listen to what I have to say about the January 6 committee.

    But listen to Byron York and Mollie Hemingway.

    I was just in a room with the two of them 4 weeks ago. I listen to them all the time. And they have never once questioned my mental state. Not once.

    And that’s what I really dislike about this type of conversation. Anyone who has the temerity to disapprove of Donald Trump’s behavior, his ethics, his morality, or his choice of verbiage automatically gets labeled as “deranged” or a “wasteful mind” or some sort of Liberal lackey. Or worse, their patriotism or party loyalty is called into question.

    That’s not an argument, it’s not debate, it’s not persuasion. It’s name calling, it’s junior high school level peer pressure, and it’s quite frankly, it’s insulting. And I’m sick of it.

    As are I suspect, a majority of voters. Just like they were in 2020. Just more now.

    I can agree with you – a little. I think people can find the disreputable aspects of Donald Trump unpleasant, and are free not to support him for any of those reasons. I think we should call your attention to the facts when democrat politicians or their surrogates use similar verbiage. IF Mitt Romeny had responded to the unjust attacks of Obama, the democrat media complex and democrat surrogates with just 1% of the backbone that Donald Trump musters on a regular basis, he could have been president. We should also point out, that as much as Donald Trump was disreputable, I think he was better candidate than the alternatives (In the general elections).

    Could you imagine the media storm if any of the Trump kids acted like the Biden adult children?

    Also, you shouldn’t question the mental capacity or fitness of those who question the outcome of the 2020 election. There are plenty of good reasons to question the fairness of the process and outcome of that election. Just as you feel unjustly harangued for your anti-Trumpism – so do those who can’t believe that a potato won the election fairly.

    So lets make a truce. No more personal attacks on Anti-Trumpers or Election fortification spotters. Both have legitimate points of view, and both should be respected for them. (except for Max Boot – he’s just nuts ;)

    Problem is, questioning election integrity even a little, makes some people very uncomfortable. And they won’t have it.

    Abominable Blue One:  “A mind is a terrible thing to waste” always implied lack of information, not defect!

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  22. Taras Coolidge
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    Problem is, questioning election integrity even a little, makes some people very uncomfortable. And they won’t have it.

    Yes. I have a word for those people. Guilty.

    Donald Trump knew he did nothing wrong in 2016 – so the democrats in congress spent millions of dollars, thousands of man hours investigating the 2016 election – from the Russia Hoax on – and they found nothing.

    Republicans have issues with the 2020 election – congress and the court house have been locked up tight. They can’t get a hearing let alone an investigation. Who does that? People with guilty minds.

    Disinformation actually means two different things: 1) false information; and 2) true but dangerous information.

    At the beginning of the epidemic, for example, urging people to wear masks was in the latter category. Until quite recently, the lab leak hypothesis was, too.

    Questioning any details about global warming is another: activists believe people won’t do what’s necessary sans panic.

    Questioning the source of some of Joe Biden’s 81 million ballots also comes under the heading of true but dangerous. You don’t want to “destroy people’s faith in democracy”, do you?

    Like Richard Nixon in 1960 (another time someone wildly incompetent was “elected” President), a Republican candidate is required to fall on his sword for the sake of destroying the country.

    There you go.

    Putting back what I actually wrote:  “a Republican candidate is required to fall on his sword for the sake of the country.”

    People who mess with other people’s comments should be kicked out of Ricochet. Especially when they distort the meaning of the original comment.

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
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    @ blueyeti — What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.

    (Attributed to Vice President Dan Quayle.)

    Dude, my mind is fine.

    But projection is a hell of drug.

    OK, don’t listen to what I have to say about the January 6 committee.

    But listen to Byron York and Mollie Hemingway.

    I was just in a room with the two of them 4 weeks ago. I listen to them all the time. And they have never once questioned my mental state. Not once.

    And that’s what I really dislike about this type of conversation. Anyone who has the temerity to disapprove of Donald Trump’s behavior, his ethics, his morality, or his choice of verbiage automatically gets labeled as “deranged” or a “wasteful mind” or some sort of Liberal lackey. Or worse, their patriotism or party loyalty is called into question.

    That’s not an argument, it’s not debate, it’s not persuasion. It’s name calling, it’s junior high school level peer pressure, and it’s quite frankly, it’s insulting. And I’m sick of it.

    As are I suspect, a majority of voters. Just like they were in 2020. Just more now.

    I can agree with you – a little. I think people can find the disreputable aspects of Donald Trump unpleasant, and are free not to support him for any of those reasons. I think we should call your attention to the facts when democrat politicians or their surrogates use similar verbiage. IF Mitt Romeny had responded to the unjust attacks of Obama, the democrat media complex and democrat surrogates with just 1% of the backbone that Donald Trump musters on a regular basis, he could have been president. We should also point out, that as much as Donald Trump was disreputable, I think he was better candidate than the alternatives (In the general elections).

    Could you imagine the media storm if any of the Trump kids acted like the Biden adult children?

    Also, you shouldn’t question the mental capacity or fitness of those who question the outcome of the 2020 election. There are plenty of good reasons to question the fairness of the process and outcome of that election. Just as you feel unjustly harangued for your anti-Trumpism – so do those who can’t believe that a potato won the election fairly.

    So lets make a truce. No more personal attacks on Anti-Trumpers or Election fortification spotters. Both have legitimate points of view, and both should be respected for them. (except for Max Boot – he’s just nuts ;)

    Problem is, questioning election integrity even a little, makes some people very uncomfortable. And they won’t have it.

    Abominable Blue One: “A mind is a terrible thing to waste” always implied lack of information, not defect!

    Really?  I thought those ads were about drug use.

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  24. Taras Coolidge
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    @kedavis — “A mind is a terrible thing to waste” is the slogan of the United Negro College Fund, which finances college scholarships for promising black students.

    I was pointing out that the slogan does not impugn the minds of black students; just their relative lack of opportunity to develop them.

    N.B.:  if you’re losing an argument, it’s a pretty good debater’s trick to claim insult, thereby hoping to change the subject.

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    @ kedavis — “A mind is a terrible thing to waste” is the slogan of the United Negro College Fund, which finances college scholarships for promising black students.

    I was pointing out that the slogan does not impugn the minds of black students; just their relative lack of opportunity to develop them.

    N.B.: if you’re losing an argument, it’s a pretty good debater’s trick to claim insult, thereby hoping to change the subject.

    That, and if someone claims expertise due to some credential, pointing out that the credential isn’t necessarily worth a whole lot – especially in an individual setting – hardly seems somehow automatically unfair.

    There are many different types of MDs, and RNs, and JDs too.  Just having a certain type of credential doesn’t guarantee much, if anything.

    My benighted mother was an RN, but I suspect her qualifications wouldn’t be sufficient to clean TheRightNurse’s shoes.

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  26. jorge espinha Inactive
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    Start trek: in my opinion, the original series and all the later seasons and spin-offs are as boring as watching paint drying. Wokism didn’t make it worst because wokism was always part of the cake. 

     

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  27. Taras Coolidge
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    @ kedavis — “A mind is a terrible thing to waste” is the slogan of the United Negro College Fund, which finances college scholarships for promising black students.

    I was pointing out that the slogan does not impugn the minds of black students; just their relative lack of opportunity to develop them.

    N.B.: if you’re losing an argument, it’s a pretty good debater’s trick to claim insult, thereby hoping to change the subject.

    That, and if someone claims expertise due to some credential, pointing out that the credential isn’t necessarily worth a whole lot – especially in an individual setting – hardly seems somehow automatically unfair.

    There are many different types of MDs, and RNs, and JDs too. Just having a certain type of credential doesn’t guarantee much, if anything.

    My benighted mother was an RN, but I suspect her qualifications wouldn’t be sufficient to clean TheRightNurse’s shoes.

    It is, perhaps, a flaw in human nature that leads us to think that expertise in one area carries over to, well, everything else.

    I think of those brilliant physicists who thought they knew better than the government, and chose to share nuclear secrets with Stalin’s regime.

    Or Dr. Anthony Fauci, an immunologist, who plotted to keep epidemiologists from speaking out about epidemiology.  Because he knew better!

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