Lady of Spain, Man of Mexico

Even though Jonah is off this week, Rob Long has some personal news to share concerning his health and (like Hilaria Baldwin), his ethnicity. Also, John reviews Wonder Woman ’84 and Soul, Rob reveals the most successful man in show biz (no, it’s not himself), John picks the best director working today, and both pick their top 3 of 2020. Happy New Year to all GLoP listeners of all ethnicities and political persuasions.

Subscribe to GLoP Culture in Apple Podcasts (and leave a 5-star review, please!), or by RSS feed. For all our podcasts in one place, subscribe to the Ricochet Audio Network Superfeed in Apple Podcasts or by RSS feed.

Please Support Our Sponsors!

Boll & Branch

Use Code: GLOP

Tommy John

Now become a Ricochet member for only $5.00 a month! Join and see what you’ve been missing.

There are 91 comments.

Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.
  1. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Just dropping in here to say that for the last two or three years, the comments on this show have been consistently haranguing us to “stop talking about Trump!” or “I thought this was a pop culture show!” or most commonly, “I turned it off when they started discussing the President!”

    This episode has almost no politics in it (I think Rob mentioned Trump in passing once, and then quickly apologized for it), and yet the comments have mostly been all about Trump and politics.

    What a world.

     

    It’s just the… pre-emptive?… slagging of Jonah for the predictable/inevitable (he can’t seem to NOT do it) slagging of Trump (and others like him) that Jonah would have done if he’d been on the show this time.

     

    @blueyeti — The problem was never commenting on Trump, but unbalanced (in more than one sense) commenting on Trump.

    • #61
  2. ThomasMcInerny Coolidge
    ThomasMcInerny
    @ThomasMcInerny

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Just dropping in here to say that for the last two or three years, the comments on this show have been consistently haranguing us to “stop talking about Trump!” or “I thought this was a pop culture show!” or most commonly, “I turned it off when they started discussing the President!”

    This episode has almost no politics in it (I think Rob mentioned Trump in passing once, and then quickly apologized for it), and yet the comments have mostly been all about Trump and politics.

    What a world.

     

    It’s just the… pre-emptive?… slagging of Jonah for the predictable/inevitable (he can’t seem to NOT do it) slagging of Trump (and others like him) that Jonah would have done if he’d been on the show this time.

     

    @blueyeti — The problem was never commenting on Trump, but unbalanced (in more than one sense) commenting on Trump.

     

    • #62
  3. ThomasMcInerny Coolidge
    ThomasMcInerny
    @ThomasMcInerny

    In a world Without Donald, where would be, for so many, be. Time  to divest.

    • #63
  4. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    ThomasMcInerny (View Comment):

    In a world Without Donald, where would be, for so many, be. Time to divest.

    I’m not sure that makes sense.  Perhaps some more editing?

    • #64
  5. Jon1979 Inactive
    Jon1979
    @Jon1979

    kedavis (View Comment):

    ThomasMcInerny (View Comment):

    In a world Without Donald, where would be, for so many, be. Time to divest.

    I’m not sure that makes sense. Perhaps some more editing?

    If the rhetorical question is what will some people do when they don’t have Donald Trump to kick around anymore, there are other avenues of punditry and comment that already are being explored — case in point:

    • #65
  6. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    ThomasMcInerny (View Comment):

    In a world Without Donald, where would be, for so many, be. Time to divest.

    I’m not sure that makes sense. Perhaps some more editing?

    If the rhetorical question is what will some people do when they don’t have Donald Trump to kick around anymore, there are other avenues of punditry and comment that already are being explored — case in point:

    Kristol is a somewhat unique case, I expect it will be more common for those who insisted that Trump must be defeated, to start complaining about the entirely predictable result of what they wanted.

    • #66
  7. ThomasMcInerny Coolidge
    ThomasMcInerny
    @ThomasMcInerny

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    ThomasMcInerny (View Comment):

    In a world Without Donald, where would be, for so many, be. Time to divest.

    I’m not sure that makes sense. Perhaps some more editing?

    If the rhetorical question is what will some people do when they don’t have Donald Trump to kick around anymore, there are other avenues of punditry and comment that already are being explored — case in point:

    Ayn Rand, the John Birch Society, and Donald Trump’s special brand of crass vulgarity should be read out of NR conservatism.

    • #67
  8. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    CaptainMayotoast (View Comment):

    Personally, I miss Jonah and enjoy the politics discussions on GLoP.

    I miss the old Jonah.

    It seems more and more likely that the old Jonah was some kind of simulacrum.

    I think that Trump broke him and he got older and tired. It is really sad.

    I forget who, but one of the mainstays on Land of Confusion talked about how he couldn’t listen to Jonah’s podcast because he does the same sanctimonious anti-Trump rant that eats up ten to fifteen minutes of time every podcast. We all repeat ourselves, but man does Jonah waste alot of time by making an argument that convinces no one.

     

    • #68
  9. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    CaptainMayotoast (View Comment):

    Personally, I miss Jonah and enjoy the politics discussions on GLoP.

    I miss the old Jonah.

    It seems more and more likely that the old Jonah was some kind of simulacrum.

    I think that Trump broke him and he got older and tired. It is really sad.

    I forget who, but one of the mainstays on Land of Confusion talked about how he couldn’t listen to Jonah’s podcast because he does the same sanctimonious anti-Trump rant that eats up ten to fifteen minutes of time every podcast. We all repeat ourselves, but man does Jonah waste alot of time by making an argument that convinces no one.

     

    Him and Gary.

    • #69
  10. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    ThomasMcInerny (View Comment):

    In a world Without Donald, where would be, for so many, be. Time to divest.

    I’m not sure that makes sense. Perhaps some more editing?

    If the rhetorical question is what will some people do when they don’t have Donald Trump to kick around anymore, there are other avenues of punditry and comment that already are being explored — case in point:

    Kristol is a somewhat unique case, I expect it will be more common for those who insisted that Trump must be defeated, to start complaining about the entirely predictable result of what they wanted.

    I have to wonder, was Bill Kristol ever a real conservative; or, like Charlie Crist, an opportunist — fraud? double agent? — all along?  

    “Under her [Nancy Pelosi’s] leadership, the House then did what it could to check Trump.”  “Check” him doing what exactly?  Does Kristol think Pelosi’s House was to Trump’s right politically?

    • #70
  11. jmelvin Member
    jmelvin
    @jmelvin

    Great podcast guys.  Thanks!

    • #71
  12. Jon1979 Inactive
    Jon1979
    @Jon1979

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    ThomasMcInerny (View Comment):

    In a world Without Donald, where would be, for so many, be. Time to divest.

    I’m not sure that makes sense. Perhaps some more editing?

    If the rhetorical question is what will some people do when they don’t have Donald Trump to kick around anymore, there are other avenues of punditry and comment that already are being explored — case in point:

    Kristol is a somewhat unique case, I expect it will be more common for those who insisted that Trump must be defeated, to start complaining about the entirely predictable result of what they wanted.

    I have to wonder, was Bill Kristol ever a real conservative; or, like Charlie Crist, an opportunist — fraud? double agent? — all along?

    “Under her [Nancy Pelosi’s] leadership, the House then did what it could to check Trump.” “Check” him doing what exactly? Does Kristol think Pelosi’s House was to Trump’s right politically?

    If you’re a decorum conservative or grew up in New York City in the late 1970s and the 1980s repulsed by Trump’s outer borough vulgarity, I think personal loathing has come to take precedence over everything. And if your disgust extends to anything that Trump touches, then all of his conservative actions, including the ones you claimed to have wanted for a quarter-century, must be opposed and the ideology of Trump’s enemies supported.

    (I also suppose if you have enough ego about your own personal intelligence, you’ve also somehow game-planned in your mind a strategy to retake the Republican Party, post-Trump, purge all his acolytes and begin telling everyone else the proper way things should be run again. Getting to that point from the start might also be akin to the business model of the South Park Underpants Gnomes, but people with excess love of their own smarts quite often aren’t as smart as they think they are.)

    • #72
  13. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    ThomasMcInerny (View Comment):

    In a world Without Donald, where would be, for so many, be. Time to divest.

    I’m not sure that makes sense. Perhaps some more editing?

    If the rhetorical question is what will some people do when they don’t have Donald Trump to kick around anymore, there are other avenues of punditry and comment that already are being explored — case in point:

    Kristol is a somewhat unique case, I expect it will be more common for those who insisted that Trump must be defeated, to start complaining about the entirely predictable result of what they wanted.

    I have to wonder, was Bill Kristol ever a real conservative; or, like Charlie Crist, an opportunist — fraud? double agent? — all along?

    “Under her [Nancy Pelosi’s] leadership, the House then did what it could to check Trump.” “Check” him doing what exactly? Does Kristol think Pelosi’s House was to Trump’s right politically?

    If you’re a decorum conservative or grew up in New York City in the late 1970s and the 1980s repulsed by Trump’s outer borough vulgarity, I think personal loathing has come to take precedence over everything. And if your disgust extends to anything that Trump touches, then all of his conservative actions, including the ones you claimed to have wanted for a quarter-century, must be opposed and the ideology of Trump’s enemies supported.

    (I also suppose if you have enough ego about your own personal intelligence, you’ve also somehow game-planned in your mind a strategy to retake the Republican Party, post-Trump, purge all his acolytes and begin telling everyone else the proper way things should be run again. Getting to that point from the start might also be akin to the business model of the South Park Underpants Gnomes, but people with excess love of their own smarts quite often aren’t as smart as they think they are.)

    Doesn’t it usually look like this?

    1. Destroy The Party.
    2. ?
    3. Victory!

     

    • #73
  14. Blondie Thatcher
    Blondie
    @Blondie

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Just dropping in here to say that for the last two or three years, the comments on this show have been consistently haranguing us to “stop talking about Trump!” or “I thought this was a pop culture show!” or most commonly, “I turned it off when they started discussing the President!”

    This episode has almost no politics in it (I think Rob mentioned Trump in passing once, and then quickly apologized for it), and yet the comments have mostly been all about Trump and politics.

    What a world.

     

    I haven’t finished the comments, and just got around to listening to the podcast today, but I was going to come here and say how wonderful it was to get back to the reason why I started listening to this podcast in the first place. I might even be able to get my husband to listen to this one. I’m glad Rob’s case of the “rona” didn’t seem too bad. Thanks for getting back to the “pop culture show”. 

    • #74
  15. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Blondie (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Just dropping in here to say that for the last two or three years, the comments on this show have been consistently haranguing us to “stop talking about Trump!” or “I thought this was a pop culture show!” or most commonly, “I turned it off when they started discussing the President!”

    This episode has almost no politics in it (I think Rob mentioned Trump in passing once, and then quickly apologized for it), and yet the comments have mostly been all about Trump and politics.

    What a world.

     

    I haven’t finished the comments, and just got around to listening to the podcast today, but I was going to come here and say how wonderful it was to get back to the reason why I started listening to this podcast in the first place. I might even be able to get my husband to listen to this one. I’m glad Rob’s case of the “rona” didn’t seem too bad. Thanks for getting back to the “pop culture show”.

    Is there any serious doubt that it’s because Jonah was absent?

    • #75
  16. Blondie Thatcher
    Blondie
    @Blondie

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Blondie (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Just dropping in here to say that for the last two or three years, the comments on this show have been consistently haranguing us to “stop talking about Trump!” or “I thought this was a pop culture show!” or most commonly, “I turned it off when they started discussing the President!”

    This episode has almost no politics in it (I think Rob mentioned Trump in passing once, and then quickly apologized for it), and yet the comments have mostly been all about Trump and politics.

    What a world.

     

    I haven’t finished the comments, and just got around to listening to the podcast today, but I was going to come here and say how wonderful it was to get back to the reason why I started listening to this podcast in the first place. I might even be able to get my husband to listen to this one. I’m glad Rob’s case of the “rona” didn’t seem too bad. Thanks for getting back to the “pop culture show”.

    Is there any serious doubt that it’s because Jonah was absent?

    I’d like to think not, but the evidence is pretty strong. I almost made mention of it in my comment. Even Rob’s brief mention of Trump was not so much as to derail the show and I got what we has saying. 

    • #76
  17. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    @blueyeti  What do we have to do to see the picture?

    • #77
  18. ThomasMcInerny Coolidge
    ThomasMcInerny
    @ThomasMcInerny

    I think what I meant to say was in this moment , put aside the Past, and just be. OOOOOOOM. Done ! Now how do we put this goddamn mess back together.???!!! Best GLoP in a long time . Jonah could have made it even better. Happy New Year and love to all.

    • #78
  19. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    ThomasMcInerny (View Comment):
    Jonah could have made it even better.

    Theoretically possible, but the evidence of the last four-five years is not favorable.

    • #79
  20. Douglas LeBlanc Member
    Douglas LeBlanc
    @DouglasLeBlanc

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Jenny Parker (View Comment):

    2020…finished the year by joining – looking forward to the childhood pix of the Latino COVID sufferer. Happy New Year !

    Señor Long has been notified and your photo should be arriving in the next 24 hours. And welcome!

    Following up on this question: Does an interested member receive the photo via email? I ask because I would enjoy seeing it too.

    • #80
  21. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Here you go (Rob is on the left):

    • #81
  22. Charlotte Member
    Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Here you go (Rob is on the left):

    Holy mackerel.

    • #82
  23. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Here you go (Rob is on the left):

    Looks a little like Fred Savage. 

    • #83
  24. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Here you go (Rob is on the left):

    Looks a little like Fred Savage.

    According to Bethany Mandel, savage is sexy to Jewesses.

    • #84
  25. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Here you go (Rob is on the left):

    Looks a little like Fred Savage.

    According to Bethany Mandel, savage is sexy to Jewesses.

     

    • #85
  26. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph Stanko
    @JosephStanko

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Here you go (Rob is on the left):

    And Peter on the right?

    • #86
  27. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Here you go (Rob is on the left):

    And Peter on the right?

    Well I’m pretty sure it isn’t James…  

    • #87
  28. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    When Rob is being funny, he’s great.  It’s when he’s trying to be serious, that he becomes ridiculous.

    • #88
  29. CaptainMayotoast Inactive
    CaptainMayotoast
    @CaptainMayotoast

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It just doesn’t seem possible that Trump could “break” a real conservative. It seems more likely that what was inside Jonah wasn’t ever truly conservative, and all Trump “broke” was the outer shell.

    “Attention everyone: I’m now going to tell you all about the deepest, innermost thoughts and actions of a person I don’t actually know.” 😳

    I agree, @blueyeti.

    • #89
  30. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    CaptainMayotoast (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It just doesn’t seem possible that Trump could “break” a real conservative. It seems more likely that what was inside Jonah wasn’t ever truly conservative, and all Trump “broke” was the outer shell.

    “Attention everyone: I’m now going to tell you all about the deepest, innermost thoughts and actions of a person I don’t actually know.” 😳

    I agree, @blueyeti.

    @kedavis was simply offering a hypothesis:  “It seems more likely that …”.

    I’ve suggested that some Never Trump “conservatives” are simply people who sent their resumes to liberal institutions, plus a few conservative ones for insurance.  

    But the liberals were flooded with applicants, and the NTers ended up going through the motions of being conservatives for right-wing donors.  This might explain Bill Kristol’s bizarre political transmigrations.

    • #90
Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.