After an extended hiatus, the men of Goldberg, Long, and Podhoretz are back. This week, they take on the curious goings on at CPAC, one more reason, Romney lost, the end of Time (Inc.), Long lives large, the saddest victim of sequestration, and the new Pope. 

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There are 16 comments.

  1. EJHill Podcaster
    Goldberg, Long, and Podhoretz Light one up for EJHill.

    But only if you can expense it.

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    • March 16, 2013, at 1:42 AM PST
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  2. Fynxbell Member

    Please relocate the mp3 link to the top of the pages, so we don’t have to stretch it 3 times to get to the bottom!

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    • March 16, 2013, at 2:18 AM PST
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  3. Profile Photo Member

    Great podcast as always. It’s so refreshing to see topics discussed in detail. News TV is hopeless, typically a vapid moderator adjudicates sound bytes between two floating heads representing right and left, topics are discussed for 30 seconds, and are thus content free. I play these multiple times, and pick up new ideas even after several listenings.

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    • March 16, 2013, at 3:54 AM PST
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  4. KC Mulville Inactive

    Do you mean … Canisius college? A Jesuit school in Buffalo? And Jonah pronounced it Kenzias College? Kenzias?

    Francis certainly has his work cut out for him. First the Roman Curia, then Jonah Goldberg … 

    It’s kuh-nish-us. Like the pastry, pronounced by an Irishman.

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    • March 16, 2013, at 5:15 AM PST
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  5. MACHO GRANDE' (aka - Chri… Coolidge

    Great podcast, gentlemen. I stayed for a week at the Gaylord for a software conference some years ago, and Jonah’s description is dead accurate. Great place for a convention, but it’s about as plastic and carbonized as, well, a shopping mall, which is what it mostly resembles.

    Little pricey, too, but a great view of the river and you can grab a water shuttle across. Let’s just not call it a honeymoon destination.

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    • March 16, 2013, at 7:25 AM PST
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  6. MACHO GRANDE' (aka - Chri… Coolidge

    Regarding CPAC: I think all of your comments were spot-on. If the powers that be feel that nothing shall ruffle the feathers at the convention, then it probably is more about money and the dog-and-pony than anything else. No change in our political equations will come out of this construction, not with that mentality guiding it. Might as well call it “Status Quo-PAC” and be done with it.

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    • March 16, 2013, at 7:27 AM PST
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  7. Duane Oyen Member
    EJHill
    Goldberg, Long, and Podhoretz Light one up for EJHill.

    But onlyif you can expense it. · 11 hours ago

    But, EJ, Rob and Jonah are mixed up- you have Rob married and Jonah single.

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    • March 16, 2013, at 7:48 AM PST
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  8. MACHO GRANDE' (aka - Chri… Coolidge

    I still remember the glee with which many Ricochetti were rubbing their hands together, waiting for the ads to come out, since Barry had provided a solid 6 years worth of material to work with. It would have been easy, and hilarious, at the same time, to point out just how simple, shallow, and wrong this Barry fellow really was.

    Those ads never came. I know that due to campaign finance rules, there’s a date restriction on when they can be placed, but August and September should have been a tidal wave of negative advertising, which I would rather call truthful advertising, about Barry’s lack of manhood, er, I mean, performance.

    It’s not just the fact that Barry is the wrong person in the wrong place at the wrong time (think “The Peter Principle”, no relation to Mr. Robinson). He is, ultimately, a danger to the country, if not in terms of our prosperity, but also in that he represents the enlargement of the gov’t, the inevitable results of which are reduced freedoms. Ironically, his supporters seem to be incapable of understanding that a gov’t that can grant you “rights” can also take them away.

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    • March 17, 2013, at 5:14 AM PST
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  9. Peabody Here Member

    John’s assessment of CPAC was eye-opening for me. I’ve never been to one, but in the past I’ve gotten excited by seeing CPAC speeches on the web by the likes of Ann Coulter and Andrew Breitbart. My question is, does CPAC serve any practical purpose for the movement? Or is it just an echo chamber?

    Sarah Palin evidently was a hit this year. She took a few sips from a giant soda cup which received smiles and applause. And she stated we should not rebrand the party but rebuild the country. Good rah-rah line in a speech but does that mindset get Republicans elected?

    I’m guess I am still enough in a funk from the last election that I question whether CPAC is useful for the movement in any practical sense.

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    • March 17, 2013, at 7:03 AM PST
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  10. Profile Photo Member

    I was shocked at Jonah’s description of the money games played at the cost of winning. Rob, I loved Jonah counselling you to get into the side business of political media. 

    The political attack advertising in Canada that worked was Ignatief being called Russian royalty, Harvard professor and he is only doing it for his own ego. These were very simple ads that a media 101 student could produce – they did look that basic. They were placed on Youtube and during Comedy Central channel. It is not rocket science.

    In fact, Ricochet advertising has been showing me a Canadian politican for the past 8 weeks and I am now getting quite fond of her as I associate her with Ricochet. Advertising works but who watches TV anymore? Reddit, yes.

    Jonah – about one of your articles – you use the Canadian “Tar sands”. This is a dog whistle to climate change. Please use “oil Sands”. The term tar sands is used by those weirdos like Pelosi to denigrate the Canadian oil industry. We are branded, clean, ethical oil.

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    • March 17, 2013, at 7:55 AM PST
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  11. Adam Koslin Member

    I’m shocked by the degree to which Messrs. Long, Goldberg, and Podhoretz are starting to sound like Blue-Dog Democrats. It’s like they think that the flood of money into politics unleashed in large part by the gutting of McCain-Feingold is…bad! It’s like they think that the GOP is…out of touch with the internet age! Shock! Awe!

    I’m actually a little disappointed. I’m used to much higher quality commentary than eight-month-old conventional wisdom.

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    • March 18, 2013, at 4:52 AM PST
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  12. Larry Koler Inactive

    Great podcast. Thanks for taking the time to do this. It means a lot to most of us. 

    John Podhoretz’s explanation of how donors affect things was so well explained that I finally think I get it. Thanks, John, very much. I hadn’t thought about it in just that way before: money is given with strings attached — that’s natural. But, that it might be given with poison pills both small and large I just don’t think I had thought it through before how this can work out. It takes someone who has been to these things at a high enough level to see what really happens and to be able to explain it. 

    Basically, principles must trump money. But, how to do it and still get enough money to stay in the race? The trouble seems to be that the consultants are told to get money and they do it. Then, the candidate must use his principles to guide him in this. He simply must keep control of the process but to do this takes experience and the consultants have much more experience, don’t they?

    Someone must maximize the incentive to win.

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    • March 19, 2013, at 8:19 AM PST
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  13. Peabody Here Member

    This is the podcast where Rob Long suggested having CPAC in Detroit right? (Its been a few days since I’ve listened to it.)

    My question to that is: Who the heck would want to go there?

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    • March 19, 2013, at 8:58 AM PST
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  14. EJHill Podcaster
    Peabody Here: My question to that is: Who the heck would want to go there?  

    There is an area of Downtown Detroit that’s quite nice. It shoud be called “Illitchtown.” The owner of the Tigers and Red Wings, Mike Illitch made considerable investment in the area around his ballpark and the old Fox Theater. The problem is, not many joined him.

    The late mayor Coleman Young chased the white population and a lot of businesses out of Detroit and into the suburbs never to return.

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    • March 19, 2013, at 9:38 AM PST
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  15. Nerina Bellinger Member

    Donald Trump – “no talent, ass clown.”

    Love this description, Jonah!

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    • March 20, 2013, at 7:22 AM PST
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  16. Autistic License Member

    I was just listening to Podhoretz on this podcast from a few months ago (they come out so seldom, I was desperate), and found his predictions about what-happens-if-Romney-loses nothing less than prophetic. It’s Rand Paul vs. Huckabee.

    That said, what’re you guys reading and seeing at the movies? Political reality is a bit depressing right now.

    Detroit monorail: “tour the ruins for a buck.”

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    • April 2, 2013, at 1:22 AM PST
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