Check Your Preferences

OK, fair warning: we’re in week 10 or so of this lockdown thing, and the men of GLoP are getting a bit punchy. Add to that some technical issues and being a punching bag in certain quarters, and well, you get a very shall we say, eccentric show. How so? Well, as you’ll hear, we abandon the first take and start the show all over again about ten minutes in. And in the interests of transparency (and comedy) we left our screws-ups in (well, most of them). We cover a range of topics (including this YouTube video tracking  hit TV shows of the past 60 years) and go down a host of tangents — too many to list and spoil here. What we can tell you is that you’ll laugh, you’ll marvel at some middle aged juvenile jokes, you may be offended, and you’ll definitely learn a lot about fly and zipper technology. We did.

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  1. JuliaBlaschke Lincoln
    JuliaBlaschke
    @JuliaBlaschke

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    And … I agree Trump should knock it off with the idiot unforced error tweets which are not helpful to anything especially his own re-election prospects, but Trump should not to quit tweeting altogether.

    He can’t.

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  2. JuliaBlaschke Lincoln
    JuliaBlaschke
    @JuliaBlaschke

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    And … I agree Trump should knock it off with the idiot unforced error tweets which are not helpful to anything especially his own re-election prospects, but Trump should not to quit tweeting altogether.

    The “something” is that Trump should resign and let Pence run. But he is far too selfish and arrogant for that. He had his chance. He blew it.

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  3. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS
    @user_54742

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    And … I agree Trump should knock it off with the idiot unforced error tweets which are not helpful to anything especially his own re-election prospects, but Trump should not to quit tweeting altogether.

    The “something” is that Trump should resign and let Pence run. But he is far too selfish and arrogant for that. He had his chance. He blew it.

    Recommending scenerios which will never occur and intended as a political attack on Trump may feel good in the moment, but are meaningless and entirely unhelpful.

    I am sincerely interested in what Trump should do now in light of the civil unrest.

    This way we have both recommendations to solve/alleviate the issue, as well as putting the various recommendations on the record in real time to refer to in the future when the blaming begins.

    It is easy to say do “something” in real time without defining the “something”,  and easy to delegate blame in the future after having never gone on the record with a recommendation to solve/alleviate a crisis in the first place.

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Perhaps BlueYeti could give fellow Californian VDH a call, for example, and ask fellow Californian VDH what fellow Californian VDH thinks Trump should do, or should be expected to do, to fix California.  My guess is he would say, “little or nothing.”  California(ns) need to fix ITSELF/THEMSELVES.

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  5. JuliaBlaschke Lincoln
    JuliaBlaschke
    @JuliaBlaschke

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Recommending scenerios which will never occur and intended as a political attack on Trump may feel good in the moment, but are meaningless and entirely unhelpful.

    I am sincerely interested in what Trump should do now in light of the civil unrest.

    Trump cannot do anything.  He is incapable. Why shouldn’t my scenario occur? Probably because people will not give up on Trump. He is and always has been completely unfit for the job. 

    He really could do something if he lost support, resigned and let Pence take over.

     

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  6. jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… Member
    jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva…
    @jeannebodine

    @blueyeti, are you part of Ricochet management? If so, may I tell you that you seem to be one of the most unpleasant persons on Ricochet. I wouldn’t think your role would be to infect honest conversations with constant invective that berates others’ opinions. People were discussing the podcast based on what the speakers had to say. Is it really necessary to defend them and blast them with your personal views. This has been one of the most unprofessional threads I’ve ever seen on this site. If you can’t control your temper, perhaps you absent yourself from the comments and let your customers speak.

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  7. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Perhaps BlueYeti could give fellow Californian VDH a call, for example, and ask fellow Californian VDH what fellow Californian VDH thinks Trump should do, or should be expected to do, to fix California. My guess is he would say, “little or nothing.” California(ns) need to fix ITSELF/THEMSELVES.

    Not the point you were making, but some fine goal post moving there. And I speak to Victor all the time: I produce his podcast for Hoover and help him with his Fox hits. But thanks for the suggestion. 

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Perhaps BlueYeti could give fellow Californian VDH a call, for example, and ask fellow Californian VDH what fellow Californian VDH thinks Trump should do, or should be expected to do, to fix California. My guess is he would say, “little or nothing.” California(ns) need to fix ITSELF/THEMSELVES.

    Not the point you were making, but some fine goal post moving there. And I speak to Victor all the time: I produce his podcast for Hoover and help him with his Fox hits. But thanks for the suggestion.

    If you’ve previously asked him how much responsibility he thinks Trump has for the state (condition) of California, past and present, by all means share.

    Of course, if California had its way, we’d have President Hillary now.  And how do you think that would be going for you?  (I hope you don’t seriously believe that George Floyd would still be alive if Hillary was president, and/or that there would be no rioting…)

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  9. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Of course, if California had its way, we’d have President Hillary now. And how do you think that would be going for you? (I hope you don’t seriously believe that George Floyd would still be alive if Hillary was president, and/or that there would be no rioting…)

    I don’t know if he would and quite frankly, neither do you. The difference is I’m willing to admit it, you aren’t but are still totally fine to use a a piece of self-written political fan fiction to make some lame political point. 

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  10. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… (View Comment):

    @blueyeti, are you part of Ricochet management? If so, may I tell you that you seem to be one of the most unpleasant persons on Ricochet. I wouldn’t think your role would be to infect honest conversations with constant invective that berates others’ opinions. People were discussing the podcast based on what the speakers had to say. Is it really necessary to defend them and blast them with your personal views. This has been one of the most unprofessional threads I’ve ever seen on this site. If you can’t control your temper, perhaps you absent yourself from the comments and let your customers speak.

    Thanks for this. 98% of the time, I do exactly that. Once in a while, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and national race riots, I get motivated to speak out on comments we get all the time.

    Not sure what’s so unprofessional — this a conversation site, isn’t it? And this is a conversation. Also, point me to where I’ve lost my temper? If anything, I’ve laughed more in this thread than I have in a long time on here. 

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  11. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Also, point me to where I’ve lost my temper?

    It is difficult to read mood from the written word. Many times, people project their own feelings or what they would be feeling onto others. Just a fact of life on the InterWebz.

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  12. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… (View Comment):

    @blueyeti, are you part of Ricochet management? If so, may I tell you that you seem to be one of the most unpleasant persons on Ricochet. I wouldn’t think your role would be to infect honest conversations with constant invective that berates others’ opinions. People were discussing the podcast based on what the speakers had to say. Is it really necessary to defend them and blast them with your personal views. This has been one of the most unprofessional threads I’ve ever seen on this site. If you can’t control your temper, perhaps you absent yourself from the comments and let your customers speak.

    Methinks the Azure Anthropoid dost protest too much.  I accused him of being whiny and defensive (for his “I’m taking my marbles and going home” comments).  

    To which he replied, “I’m rubber and you’re glue …”  (That’s my “interpretation” of what he said, just as the GLoPers “interpret” what Trump says.)

    It may be because, this time around, the GLoPers really blotted their copy books.  

    I think I was about 20 minutes in when JPod said something of such breathtaking inanity that I stopped, with the intent of transcribing it here, but I’ve been too busy to come back to it.

    JPod is an intelligent man, but he loses at least 40 IQ points when the subject is Trump, or Trump-adjacent.  

    I know him of old.  He’s the reason I canceled my multi-year sub to Commentary (plus my brothers’ gift subs).  One of his writers had taken Trump way out of contex to make him sound crazy.  When I pointed out there was nothing crazy about the statement in context, he not only refused to even note a difference of opinion in the magazine, but insisted there was absolutely nothing wrong with the quote.

    I could say a few words about JGold as well, but the real world beckons, and I’ll leave it for another time.

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  13. Jack Burden Coolidge
    Jack Burden
    @Jack Burden

    Whirlpools.  Poor second to quicksand I think. L

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  14. Kevin Inactive
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    In the beginning of this podcast there is some commentary about social media and how everyone has reversed there views.  Listening to some smart people become completely binary thinkers was disappointing.  Social media can help Trump and be working against him.  For example lets say in a world without social media candidate A would win 52% of the vote.  Social media actively works against conservatives and candidate A so they manage to take away 4%.  But candidate A uses social media to gain back 3% and wins with 51% (52-4+3).  Now the actual election and its interaction with social media is orders of magnitude more complex in a way that makes peoples current positions and their former completely rational and not involving any need to be hypocrites or switch their brains – it just involves acknowledgement that the world is complex and multifactorial and not black or white.

     

     

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  15. Kevin Inactive
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    Not surprising to hear how passionate they are about a stupid Trump tweet and how they just cannot get excited about our intelligence agencies being used to try and destroy the elected president.  Sure…that makes sense.  

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  16. Kevin Inactive
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    Trump will be blamed for this rioting too you know. And so far he hasn’t a clue on how to react. He can’t. He doesn’t know how.

    Of course Trump will be blamed.  He gets blamed for everything by the media.  They basically said he invented corona and personally murdered 100K Americans – but his polling went up.  

    Trump doesn’t have to do a thing.  Blue cities burning just reminds everyone in the suburbs the terror of democrats running things.  I don’t know how it will shake out but the riots are the lefts problem because they ferment race wars and treat a black  criminal being murdered by cops as a cataclysmic event whereas a white lady being murdered by cops isn’t even news.  Most of America doesn’t like riots and is not crazy.  They see riots and think – I will pass on that culture.   

     

     

     

     

     

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  17. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS
    @user_54742

    Kevin (View Comment):

    Not surprising to hear how passionate they are about a stupid Trump tweet and how they just cannot get excited about our intelligence agencies being used to try and destroy the elected president. Sure…that makes sense.

    Double Like

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  18. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Kevin (View Comment):

    In the beginning of this podcast there is some commentary about social media and how everyone has reversed there views. Listening to some smart people become completely binary thinkers was disappointing. Social media can help Trump and be working against him. For example lets say in a world without social media candidate A would win 52% of the vote. Social media actively works against conservatives and candidate A so they manage to take away 4%. But candidate A uses social media to gain back 3% and wins with 51% (52-4+3). Now the actual election and its interaction with social media is orders of magnitude more complex in a way that makes peoples current positions and their former completely rational and not involving any need to be hypocrites or switch their brains – it just involves acknowledgement that the world is complex and multifactorial and not black or white.

    In 2016, the social media companies “knew” that Hillary was going to win anyway.

    They put a light thumb on the scale in her favor merely to show their loyalty to the next President, because she obviously didn’t need their help to beat Trump.

    In the meantime, running his campaign on a shoestring,Trump was making better use of social media than Hillary was.

    Now, in 2020, the social media companies are determined this not happen again, no matter how inept the Biden campaign.  Twitter “fact checking” Trump’s tweets — that is, linking them to liberal editorials — is just the first move.

    I compare the situation to 1988, when the liberal media expected the “pendulum” to “swing” to the Democrats after eight years of Reagan, so they didn’t make an effort to defeat George H.W. Bush. By 1992, of course, they had learned better, and made sure Bill Clinton would win.

    I predict media companies, old and new, will be refusing to run Trump ads if they contain content they deem “controversial” (read:  effective), or if they are disapproved by “nonpartisan” (read:  Democratic) fact checkers.

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  19. Maggie Inactive
    Maggie
    @Geroo

    Radiolab aired a great podcast in October 2013 on the rise and fall (sinking?) of quicksand called… “Quicksaaaand!”  

    It includes data by year on the percentage of movies that feature quicksand.  It’s particularly entertaining and nostalgia-inducing for Boomers.

    https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/quicksand  

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  20. Edward D. Hyde Inactive
    Edward D. Hyde
    @EdwardDHyde

    I think “Contractual Minimum Weight” would be a good name for a band.

    (C. 11:30 in the podcast)

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  21. Edward D. Hyde Inactive
    Edward D. Hyde
    @EdwardDHyde

    Arahant (View Comment):
    Is it me, or is Rob starting to look like Andy Rooney?

    As Rob might put it, “More Andy Rooney references, the people cry!”

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