As we head into the 2020 election year, veteran political strategist and commentator Mike Murphy joins Bill Kristol to discuss the state of the race for the Democratic nomination, and the general election to follow. What are plausible paths to the nomination for Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, and possible dark horse candidates? What are Donald Trump’s chances for reelection against possible democratic nominees? Murphy shares his perspective on the race with his usual blend of humor and insight.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Ham-Fisted Bu… Coolidge

    Mike Murphy and Bill Kristol?

    Hard pass.

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    • December 14, 2019, at 12:13 PM PST
  2. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Mike Murphy and Bill Kristol?

    Hard pass.

    Well, it was interesting with a bit of an alternative universe of thinking. It’d rather listen to this than a bunch of Democrats. It’s not that much different than a podcast from Commentary, Jonah, or revitalized Never Trump impeachment-era National Review.

    The Never Trump-type folks have an interesting way of thinking, but they think the Trump supporters are conspiratorial … Wow! Get a mirror guys.

    Murphy is still preaching that all the old white guys are dying off and are to be replaced with a radicalized youth. Well, typically some middle age voters become more conservative. No mention of the unemployment statistics for non-whitey Americans, of course.

    I have, of course, no idea if Trump will get re-elected though, but incumbents with good economics statistics typically have a good shot.

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    • December 14, 2019, at 4:02 PM PST
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  3. Henry Castaigne Member

    I’m glad I listened to this in the same way that I was glad that I listened to the Marianne Williamson interview. It’s clarifying to understand the other side. It’s actually quite a different kind of NeverTrumpery.

    I quite doubt that even JPod thinks that Putin is in control of foreign policy and that the Trump appeal is based almost entirely on racism. 

    Well, it was interesting with a bit of an alternative universe of thinking. It’d rather listen to this than a bunch of Democrats. It’s not that much different than a podcast from Commentary, Jonah, or revitalized Never Trump impeachment-era National Review.

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    • December 14, 2019, at 5:43 PM PST
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  4. HeavyWater Inactive

    Mike Murphy points out near the end of the podcast that in 2016 the older voters tended to vote for Trump and the young voters (and immigrant voters) voted for Clinton. Further, Murphy says, mortality alone would toss the election to the Democrats.

    One could also add in immigration. I think about 1 million people have been naturalized as citizens into the United States each year Trump has been in office. I’d bet that large majority of these new, naturalized citizens are Democrats.

    But . . . . . . 

    In 2016 Trump was an untested, inexperienced candidate. In 2020 Trump will be the President of the United States presiding over an economy that is expanding, with unemployment at very low rates and the nation is at peace.

    Also, haven’t the Democrats moved further to the Left even since 2016?

    Maybe the Democrats haven’t gone as far as Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party, but they have moved pretty far Left.

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    • December 15, 2019, at 5:25 PM PST