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  1. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Someone who is not vaccinated is not a danger to anyone who is vaccinated. Banning someone because of their vaccination status simply makes no sense. But thats big government and big business for you, pushing non sense.

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    • December 4, 2020, at 8:04 AM PST
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  2. Ronald Ballinger Member

    Folks:

    We, in many cases, do NOT have to present ANY ID before voting. So-no ID requirement for voting but need an “ID” to prove??

    Ron Ballinger

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    • December 4, 2020, at 9:15 AM PST
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  3. ShellGamer Member
    ShellGamerJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I think you need to take Friday’s off, the debate was fairly inane on all topics. To wit:

    1. During the interim when the vaccine has started being distributed but not to levels likely to produce herd immunity, public spaces will offer two options: mask or demonstration of inoculation. The real question is whether there is a practical way to demonstrate vaccination–I don’t think passports are practical for retail establishments. Office occupants can sell certify, as they currently do about the health status.
    2. Where is the confidence that, provided accurate information, the public can be trusted to sort this out for themselves.
    3. A prison that accepts new inmates cannot function as a bubble just by inoculating its staff.
    4. If society locks people up, it has to take care of them while they are locked up. When people are deprived of their agency, they cannot be allowed to starve, freeze, or die of illness.
    5. Prisoners have no control over to whom they are exposed, so they are a vulnerable population.
    6. Most prisoners are not “human garbage” (a term that now comes too frequently to John’s lips). We tend to ignore the fact that they’ll be recycled by being released at the end of their sentence.
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    • December 4, 2020, at 11:04 AM PST
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  4. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    Need a mute button for Noah when you disagree with him, otherwise he’s going to power right through his points

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    • December 4, 2020, at 11:41 AM PST
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  5. R Ploni Member

    I stopped listening the second time John wished death upon people who refused to get a vaccine. I don’t agree or like anti-vaxxers, but it is shocking to hear someone be so quick to hope for harm to come to others. John, you need to talk to your rabbi about where casual hatred ends.

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    • December 4, 2020, at 12:30 PM PST
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  6. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    R Ploni (View Comment):

    I stopped listening the second time John wished death upon people who refused to get a vaccine. I don’t agree or like anti-vaxxers, but it is shocking to hear someone be so quick to hope for harm to come to others. John, you need to talk to your rabbi about where casual hatred ends.

    I will not be taking this vaccine. It normally takes 7 years to produce a new vaccine, this one was produced in 1/12 that time. Its going to be OK? Also giving vaccine producers additional indemnity against lawsuits is also a troublesome sign.

    I’ll wait, If I get this vaccine at all, I’ll be at the back of the line. 3 billion others served first.

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    • December 5, 2020, at 1:28 PM PST
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