The Republican Party’s primary race has been over for a month, but they are far from united around Donald Trump. In fact, the GOP disunion is only growing worse. Meanwhile, the Democratic Primary functionally ended last night, and already the party of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is more united than Republicans.

This week, John Podhoretz, Abe Greenwald, and Noah Rothman take a look at paths forward for both candidates in November, and why only one party is already nervously looking toward the panic button.

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  1. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Republican candidates got 2,000,000 more votes than did the Democrat candidates in the 2016 primaries — so far, with more votes still being counted in California. Many would argue that our side generated more excitement because of Trump’s unusual candidacy.

    Before you throw the baby out with the bathwater, you might want to take into account that Trump, despite having 16 primary opponents, managed to receive 3,000,000 more votes than Romney did in 2012 and 4,000,000 more votes than McCain in 2008. Just yesterday voters in California, fully aware of Trump’s judge problems, went to the polls and gave him 1,174,829 votes as of the 62% counted so far. In this entire primary season Hillary only got 2,400,000 more votes than Trump despite the fact that he had to share the early votes with 16 other formidable candidates.

    You insecure never Trumpers will prevent our candidate from winning. The voters have spoken loud and clear, yet Republican “elites” just can’t stand it, because of his outspoken, politically incorrect rhetoric. Get over it and stop trying to remake him in your own image. And for God’s sake, stop trying to make the Trump U case sound like he’s been charged with a felony. It’s a civil case — one that would have never been brought if his name hadn’t been Trump.

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  2. billy Inactive
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    So. Trump has no fundraising base, no organizations operating in the key swing states, is a very undisciplined candidate, and has at best lukewarm support from the party’s establishment. Oh, and he is about to lose a civil suit for defrauding thousands of financially desperate Americans.

    But he got the votes in New Hampshire so he has to be the party’s nominee.

    Thanks Trumpkins, Hillary probably won’t be as bad as we think.

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  3. GirlWithAPearl Inactive
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    Gentlemen, marvelous conversation as always.

    That was the calmest, most restrained, polite description of the Hindenburg I’ve ever heard. Oh it’s gonna be a long five months. Need a bigger glass.

    BigWine

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  4. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    billy: Oh, and he is about to lose a civil suit for defrauding thousands of financially desperate Americans.

    Do you know how many people initiated this suit? Could it be actually four students? Do you know how many actually took the course? If they were so financially desperate, how could they afford to charge it to begin with? Were they all of legal age? Was a gun put to their heads to force them to participate? Do they have sworn testimony from people who feel they benefited from the course? Why did some benefit and others didn’t? Is it just a coincidence that the plaintiffs’s law firm, Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, paid the Clintons a total of $675,000 in fees for speeches since 2009. Hillary Clinton gave a $225,000 speech at the law firm as recently as September 4, 2014? I went to college with thousands of other students who took the same courses and paid the same amounts of money. Why is it that some of us went on to achieve monetary success while others of us just barely get by?

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  5. GirlWithAPearl Inactive
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    Is it just a coincidence that the plaintiffs’s law firm, Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, paid the Clintons a total of $675,000 in fees for speeches since 2009.

    Is it a coincidence that Bondi and Abbott took contributions from trump then dropped the case?

    also, why can’t trump shut up about it? Why didn’t his lawyers say one word about Curiel or file a complaint? Why is trump trying to litigate his case on the backs of his beloved red hats instead of, say, campaigning? There was a grim jobs report and a fairly dramatic IG report on Hillary’s emails in the last couple days. One would think a candidate for prez and the greatest campaign staff ever might make some hay with these topics. But that assumes trump has achieved a passing awareness that he’s no longer on a reality tee vee show.

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  6. billy Inactive
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    goldwaterwoman:

    billy: Oh, and he is about to lose a civil suit for defrauding thousands of financially desperate Americans.

    Do you know how many people initiated this suit? Could it be actually four students? Do you know how many actually took the course? If they were so financially desperate, how could they afford to charge it to begin with? Were they all of legal age? Was a gun put to their heads to force them to participate? Do they have sworn testimony from people who feel they benefited from the course? Why did some benefit and others didn’t? Is it just a coincidence that the plaintiffs’s law firm, Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, paid the Clintons a total of $675,000 in fees for speeches since 2009. Hillary Clinton gave a $225,000 speech at the law firm as recently as September 4, 2014? I went to college with thousands of other students who took the same courses and paid the same amounts of money. Why is it that some of us went on to achieve monetary success while others of us just barely get by?

    Don’t ask me these questions, ask Donald Trump. You want my vote? Earn it.

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  7. Mikescapes Member
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    You guys talk about politicians withdrawing endorsement from Trump. I may have missed it, but another big problem is Republican candidates running away from him w/o formally dis-endorsing. Those in tough re-elections probably stay away when he campaigns in their State or District. This may be all the way down the ticket from federal to state to the local level. The worse Trump’s popularity, the more the danger of losing the House and Senate.

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