Roughly 36 hours from the time at which this podcast was recording, America will know the results of the 2016 presidential election. In the latest COMMENTARY podcast, John Podhoretz, Abe Greenwald, and Noah Rothman examine some likely scenarios as to how this thing will play out. Has Donald Trump awoken a sleeping giant in the form of the dormant Latino vote? Did Trump essentially win this race in June by emboldening an entirely new electorate that has never before voted and who isn’t showing up in the polls? Plus, how exactly do you pronounce Nevada?

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  1. HeavyWater Coolidge

    Great podcast, guys. See you on the other side of the election.

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    • November 7, 2016, at 1:57 PM PST
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  2. Terry Mott Member

    Here we go again.

    We have to embrace open borders (“Amnesty”) because the same people who brought us victory with Dole, McCain, and Romney, and that barely squeaked by with G.W., know how to win if only they had a moderate in the election. Trust them.

    And if that doesn’t work, they’ll call for some other capitulation to the Left. And then another. And another.

    But, Hey, at least they didn’t have to hear about gay marriage this time around. Yay!

    I can’t stand Trump, and immigration isn’t my preferred hill to die on, but I get so sick of being told that the only way to win is to abandon everything worth arguing about or fighting for, even when their chosen moderates lose time and time again.

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    • November 7, 2016, at 3:51 PM PST
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  3. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… Contributor

    If you want something done right, it seems you have to do it yourself.

    • #3
    • November 7, 2016, at 8:19 PM PST
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  4. Hank Rhody, Freelance Philosop… Contributor

    Terry, with respect to your argument, consider separating out the “moderates always lose” line. While I agree with it, it never seems to convince anybody.

    You’re right to wonder where the capitulations will end. If we lose amnesty, what are we planning on winning? To put it more generally, I’m not trying to win elections to win more elections. I want to win them to steer the country in the right direction. Winning elections and losing on the issues seems about the same as losing elections and losing on the issues.

    Choosing not to die on a particular hill can be a fine tactical decision. But if you never find a hill worth dying for, that’s not strategy, that’s cowardice.

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    • November 7, 2016, at 9:34 PM PST
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  5. Terry Mott Member

    Hank, to clarify, my point isn’t that moderates always loose. It’s that the assumption that only a moderate can win isn’t supported by the evidence.

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    • November 8, 2016, at 6:16 AM PST
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