Yes, we told you so, and we say it again and again on the second of this week’s COMMENTARY podcasts. Noah Rothman, Abe Greenwald, and John Podhoretz attempt to examine the political menage-a-trois between Trump, Schumer, and Pelosi, whom it helps, whom it hurts, and the pain and agony of people who took Donald Trump at his word. Give a listen.

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  1. dicentra Inactive
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    You call that a gloatfest?

    That’s not a gloatfest.

    THIS is a gloatfest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYPqv99l7rw

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  2. JeffHawkins Inactive
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    The narrative for Chuck and Nancy will be that they “tricked” the monster, that’s how these things always go.

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  3. Texmoor Coolidge
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    Haha! I never expected to hear Randy Travis on this podcast, lol

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  4. EDISONPARKS Member
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    To take away from Trump’s moving over the (D)’s or (Darkside) is embarrassingly self congratulatory and shows everyone the Commentary guys (and other NeverTrumps) just don’t get it.

    Here were the known knowns going in to the Trump Presidency: Trump is not a Conservative, Trump is a narcissist, Trump (in my opinion) is not that smart of a guy.

    However, Trump was a guy (President to be more specific)  who would have signed ObamaCare repeal legislation, Trump would have signed (and hopefully still will) tax reform legislation, Trump would have signed immigration reform legislation including building a wall (the wall being an issue I don’t really care that much about), but the (R)’s diddled around and the Conservative reform opportunities appear to have been lost.

    The (D)’s were always going to cry bloody murder no matter what issue was before Trump, but it didn’t help that the NeverTrumps were actively cheerleading Trumps demise, because that combination gave the (R)’s in Congress the chance to get scared and do nothing.

    So now Trump is playing footsie with the (D)’s and the Commentary guys pretend they “told you so”.

    You are such bright guys you couldn’t even use you superduper intellect to help this knuckleheaded narcissist Trump to sign into law any Conservative legislation (that Trump publicly stated he would sign) and now you pretend you’re the smart guys, give my a break.

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  5. JuliaBlaschke Lincoln
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    To take away from Trump’s moving over the (D)’s or (Darkside) is embarrassingly self congratulatory and shows everyone the Commentary guys (and other NeverTrumps) just don’t get it.

    Here were the known knowns going in to the Trump Presidency: Trump is not a Conservative, Trump is a narcissist, Trump (in my opinion) is not that smart of a guy.

    However, Trump was a guy (President to be more specific) who would have signed ObamaCare repeal legislation, Trump would have signed (and hopefully still will) tax reform legislation, Trump would have signed immigration reform legislation including building a wall (the wall being an issue I don’t really care that much about), but the (R)’s diddled around and the Conservative reform opportunities appear to have been lost.

    The (D)’s were always going to cry bloody murder no matter what issue was before Trump, but it didn’t help that the NeverTrumps were actively cheerleading Trumps demise, because that combination gave the (R)’s in Congress the chance to get scared and do nothing.

    So now Trump is playing footsie with the (D)’s and the Commentary guys pretend they “told you so”.

    You are such bright guys you couldn’t even use you superduper intellect to help this knuckleheaded narcissist Trump to sign into law any Conservative legislation (that Trump publicly stated he would sign) and now you pretend you’re the smart guys, give my a break.

    Trump would have signed the “mean law”? He knew that once he said that there was zero chance he’d be signing anything. John McCain actually saved his bacon. Trump wants accolades from the New York elites more than anything. He used the “forgotten man” and then promptly forgot him again. Trump’s demise was a certainty, NeverTrumpers notwithstanding. You got Gorsuch and some regulations that will be put back when the dems troop jubilantly back into the White House. That’s it.

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  6. EDISONPARKS Member
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    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    To take away from Trump’s moving over the (D)’s or (Darkside) is embarrassingly self congratulatory and shows everyone the Commentary guys (and other NeverTrumps) just don’t get it.

    Here were the known knowns going in to the Trump Presidency: Trump is not a Conservative, Trump is a narcissist, Trump (in my opinion) is not that smart of a guy.

    However, Trump was a guy (President to be more specific) who would have signed ObamaCare repeal legislation, Trump would have signed (and hopefully still will) tax reform legislation, Trump would have signed immigration reform legislation including building a wall (the wall being an issue I don’t really care that much about), but the (R)’s diddled around and the Conservative reform opportunities appear to have been lost.

    The (D)’s were always going to cry bloody murder no matter what issue was before Trump, but it didn’t help that the NeverTrumps were actively cheerleading Trumps demise, because that combination gave the (R)’s in Congress the chance to get scared and do nothing.

    So now Trump is playing footsie with the (D)’s and the Commentary guys pretend they “told you so”.

    You are such bright guys you couldn’t even use you superduper intellect to help this knuckleheaded narcissist Trump to sign into law any Conservative legislation (that Trump publicly stated he would sign) and now you pretend you’re the smart guys, give my a break.

    Trump would have signed the “mean law”? He knew that once he said that there was zero chance he’d be signing anything. John McCain actually saved his bacon. Trump wants accolades from the New York elites more than anything. He used the “forgotten man” and then promptly forgot him again. Trump’s demise was a certainty, NeverTrumpers notwithstanding. You got Gorsuch and some regulations that will be put back when the dems troop jubilantly back into the White House. That’s it.

    The “mean law” was specific to DACA ….

    The window to get Conservative reforms enacted into law was wide open starting January 20, 2017 and now it’s shut or has to be pried back open because so many brilliant Conservatives just couldn’t blow the opportunity to blow this opportunity.

    NeverTrumps (many who I admire, listen to, and believe are quite smart) need to devise ideas as to how you get things done using this knucleheaded narcissist Trump and not spend so much energy and PODcast hours telling us what a knuckleheaded narcissist Trump is, everybody already knows that, there is absolutely no reason to spend hours of time and pages of words telling us something that is clearly obvious.

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  7. Bishop Wash Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    To take away from Trump’s moving over the (D)’s or (Darkside) is embarrassingly self congratulatory and shows everyone the Commentary guys (and other NeverTrumps) just don’t get it.

    Here were the known knowns going in to the Trump Presidency: Trump is not a Conservative, Trump is a narcissist, Trump (in my opinion) is not that smart of a guy.

    However, Trump was a guy (President to be more specific) who would have signed ObamaCare repeal legislation, Trump would have signed (and hopefully still will) tax reform legislation, Trump would have signed immigration reform legislation including building a wall (the wall being an issue I don’t really care that much about), but the (R)’s diddled around and the Conservative reform opportunities appear to have been lost.

    The (D)’s were always going to cry bloody murder no matter what issue was before Trump, but it didn’t help that the NeverTrumps were actively cheerleading Trumps demise, because that combination gave the (R)’s in Congress the chance to get scared and do nothing.

    So now Trump is playing footsie with the (D)’s and the Commentary guys pretend they “told you so”.

    You are such bright guys you couldn’t even use you superduper intellect to help this knuckleheaded narcissist Trump to sign into law any Conservative legislation (that Trump publicly stated he would sign) and now you pretend you’re the smart guys, give my a break.

    This is what I find frustrating about Trump and a lot of the commentary about him. Even a lot of his strong supporters acknowledged Trump wasn’t a conservative but were tired of Washington working against them.

    There was a small group writing after Trump won the nomination that conservatives need to crack the Trump nut and get him to work for us. This was when I was reminded of Milton Friedman’s quote about making it profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.

    Unfortunately, the larger group kept working against Trump. He’s horrible, David French will save us, Evan McMullin will save us, a Hillary presidency will make us stronger, etc. As others have said, Congress should have started work in November and had a conveyor belt full of bills ready for Trump on 20 January. At least the Republicans can run next year saying we tried, but we need 60 senators to get anything done. Send us money and vote for us.

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