Today’s podcast largely concerns the stunning slam of Oberlin College by an Ohio jury, which found it liable for the defamation of an off-campus business, the venerable Gibson’s Bakery. What does this portend for racial politics on campus and the disgraceful conduct of out-of-control college administrators? Give a listen.

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  1. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Even hard core partisan Adam Schiff agrees there is no question Iran is attacking the ships but that won’t matter to the rest of the loony left.

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    • June 17, 2019, at 11:37 AM PDT
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  2. Taras Coolidge

    66:06 — The Podcast of the Beast!

    Conservatives are too quick to count their 33 million chickens.

    When the legal system appears to be ready to give liberals and progressives what they richly deserve, the rule of thumb is, if there’s a Democrat or a RINO anywhere in the decision loop, they will get off, or get off easy.

    You will note that not one of the many miscreants of the Obama administration has been punished, aside from a few early retirements.

    As I said elsewhere, the Oberlin College judgment is just a winning skirmish in a war we’re losing.

    N.B.: I’m invulnerable to Commentary sales pitches, at least while JPod is editor. After Christine Rosen took Donald Trump way out of context to make him look bad (possibly because she relied on deceptive news accounts), JPod rationalized like mad instead of printing even the mildest correction. So I canceled my multi-year subscription and, a few months later, didn’t renew my brothers’ gift subscriptions.

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    • June 18, 2019, at 9:29 AM PDT
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  3. filmklassik Member

    Great discussion!

    Man I love when the Commentary folks do some deep-core drilling into the strata of American (and, indeed, all of Western) culture.

    Because politics are nothing but a function of culture (academia, news, entertainment) with the latter presaging the former by about 5-10 years.

    But most Conservatives can’t seem to grasp this obvious reality.

    Oh, many will nod their heads and say, “Yes, of course, I understand” — but they don’t. Not really. And that’s what’s gonna do us in. It already is.

     

     

     

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    • June 18, 2019, at 9:22 PM PDT
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  4. Taras Coolidge

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Great discussion!

    Man I love when the Commentary folks do some deep-core drilling into the strata of American (and, indeed, all of Western) culture.

    Because politics are nothing but a function of culture (academia, news, entertainment) with the latter presaging the former by about 5-10 years.

    But most Conservatives can’t seem to grasp this obvious reality.

    Oh, many will nod their heads and say, “Yes, of course, I understand” — but they don’t. Not really. And that’s what’s gonna do us in. It already is.

     

     

     

    True; but a partial truth. Yes, the culture gave us John Lindsay; and then reality gave us Rudy Giuliani. The culture gave us Jimmy Carter; and then reality gave us Ronald Reagan. The culture gave us Barack Obama; and then reality gave us Donald Trump. 

    Not that a great deal of damage can’t be done, before reality reasserts itself. Jimmy Carter’s permanent legacy, after all, is Iran of the Ayatollahs.

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    • June 18, 2019, at 9:57 PM PDT
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  5. Penfold Member

    I’ve always been curious about whether these multi-million dollar outcomes ever really get paid. From the very little I’ve read, it seems that there can be multiple appeals and possibly a settlement for much less. The judgment itself seems to be of more lasting import in this case.

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    • June 19, 2019, at 5:14 AM PDT
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  6. filmklassik Member

    Taras (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Great discussion!

    Man I love when the Commentary folks do some deep-core drilling into the strata of American (and, indeed, all of Western) culture.

    Because politics are nothing but a function of culture (academia, news, entertainment) with the latter presaging the former by about 5-10 years.

    But most Conservatives can’t seem to grasp this obvious reality.

    Oh, many will nod their heads and say, “Yes, of course, I understand” — but they don’t. Not really. And that’s what’s gonna do us in. It already is.

     

     

     

    True; but a partial truth. Yes, the culture gave us John Lindsay; and then reality gave us Rudy Giuliani. The culture gave us Jimmy Carter; and then reality gave us Ronald Reagan. The culture gave us Barack Obama; and then reality gave us Donald Trump.

    Not that a great deal of damage can’t be done, before reality reasserts itself. Jimmy Carter’s permanent legacy, after all, is Iran of the Ayatollahs.

    Nope. Sorry. That misses the point entirely.

    The culture (primarily through K-12 education and a far Left media) is what has given us the single most Progressive, Politically Correct, Kindly-toward-the-idea-of-socialism and Dubious-about-unfettered-freedom-of-speech … cohort of young people in U.S. history.

    The Millennial Generation and Generation Z.

    These people are de facto Europeans in their values and their worldview.

    And if you think “a bracing dose of reality” after they leave college and get a job, pay taxes, start families, etc., is going to “cure” them of this outlook, I invite you to consult current polling (it ain’t good), and, if that doesn’t convince you (it should, but it may not) I invite you to look toward Europe.

    Look. Toward. Europe.

     

     

     

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    • June 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM PDT
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  7. Taras Coolidge

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Great discussion!

    Man I love when the Commentary folks do some deep-core drilling into the strata of American (and, indeed, all of Western) culture.

    Because politics are nothing but a function of culture (academia, news, entertainment) with the latter presaging the former by about 5-10 years.

    But most Conservatives can’t seem to grasp this obvious reality.

    Oh, many will nod their heads and say, “Yes, of course, I understand” — but they don’t. Not really. And that’s what’s gonna do us in. It already is.

    True; but a partial truth. Yes, the culture gave us John Lindsay; and then reality gave us Rudy Giuliani. The culture gave us Jimmy Carter; and then reality gave us Ronald Reagan. The culture gave us Barack Obama; and then reality gave us Donald Trump.

    Not that a great deal of damage can’t be done, before reality reasserts itself. Jimmy Carter’s permanent legacy, after all, is Iran of the Ayatollahs.

    Nope. Sorry. That misses the point entirely.

    The culture (primarily through K-12 education and a far Left media) is what has given us the single most Progressive, Politically Correct, Kindly-toward-the-idea-of-socialism and Dubious-about-unfettered-freedom-of-speech … cohort of young people in U.S. history.

    The Millennial Generation and Generation Z.

    These people are de facto Europeans in their values and their worldview.

    And if you think “a bracing dose of reality” after they leave college and get a job, pay taxes, start families, etc., is going to “cure” them of this outlook, I invite you to consult current polling (it ain’t good), and, if that doesn’t convince you (it should, but it may not) I invite you to look toward Europe.

    Look. Toward. Europe.

    You will note, however that progressives are not having it all their own way in Europe, from Brexit to nationalistic movements breaking out all over.

    You know the old saying, “a conservative is a liberal who got mugged”. Even decades ago, it was presumed that the education system and the media would leave young people indoctrinated as liberals. 

    Generations earlier, the saying was, “Anyone who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart; anyone who is still a socialist at 30 has no brain.”

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    • June 19, 2019, at 11:08 AM PDT
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  8. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Taras (View Comment):
    Generations earlier, the saying was, “Anyone who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart; anyone who is still a socialist at 30 has no brain.”

    Old Bernie should take note of that one ;)

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    • June 19, 2019, at 11:16 AM PDT
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  9. filmklassik Member

    Taras (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    You will note, however that progressives are not having it all their own way in Europe, from Brexit to nationalistic movements breaking out all over.

    You know the old saying, “a conservative is a liberal who got mugged”. Even decades ago, it was presumed that the education system and the media would leave young people indoctrinated as liberals.

    Generations earlier, the saying was, “Anyone who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart; anyone who is still a socialist at 30 has no brain.”

    Ads guilty of “gender stereotyping” were just banned in the United Kingdom. Not merely discouraged, mind you, but outright banned. They were banned. These ads were banned.

    Let that sink in.

    And that’s just example number 6,087. The entire European continent is getting “woker” by the hour. And so is ours.

    The “woke” pendulum has been swinging in one direction only for 20 years or more, pushing us culturally (the only thing that matters — the only thing that matters) Left Left Left Left Left.

    And all that time, and almost daily — you can set your watch by it — we have been hearing the same obsessive drumbeat from the Right “It’ll turn around, yooooou’ll see, these things are cyclical … It’ll turn around, yoooooou’ll see, these things are cyclical…”

    But the court’s decision with Oberlin notwithstanding, I defy you or anyone else to provide an example of where Political Correctness (a perfect barometer of where we are culturally) has been getting less intense, less muzzling, and less oppressive than it was even 5 years ago. Just one.

    It cannot be done.

     

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    • June 19, 2019, at 11:33 AM PDT
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  10. Daniel Sterman Listener

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    And all that time, and almost daily — you can set your watch by it — we have been hearing the same obsessive drumbeat from the Right “It’ll turn around, yooooou’ll see, these things are cyclical … It’ll turn around, yoooooou’ll see, these things are cyclical…”

    You should listen to Ordered Liberty; David French addresses and debunks this myth pretty well every few episodes. Abortion policy is the biggest example.

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    • June 19, 2019, at 2:07 PM PDT
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  11. filmklassik Member

    Daniel Sterman (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    And all that time, and almost daily — you can set your watch by it — we have been hearing the same obsessive drumbeat from the Right “It’ll turn around, yooooou’ll see, these things are cyclical … It’ll turn around, yoooooou’ll see, these things are cyclical…”

    You should listen to Ordered Liberty; David French addresses and debunks this myth pretty well every few episodes. Abortion policy is the biggest example.

    Nope. Disagree. PC is the counter example. It’s out of control, and murdering discourse and the culture.

    And I’m amazed at the number of Conservatives who are blind to this fact. Don’t they watch TV? Movies? Comedy?? Don’t they see what’s going on on our campuses? In our HR departments?

    Can’t they see how radically different all those things look today compared to 25 years ago? 

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    • June 19, 2019, at 7:39 PM PDT
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  12. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    And I’m amazed at the number of Conservatives who are blind to this fact. Don’t they watch TV? Movies? Comedy?? Don’t they see what’s going on on our campuses? In our HR departments?

    Not just campuses. It starts in elementary school. 

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    • June 19, 2019, at 9:38 PM PDT
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  13. Penfold Member

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    And all that time, and almost daily — you can set your watch by it — we have been hearing the same obsessive drumbeat from the Right “It’ll turn around, yooooou’ll see, these things are cyclical … It’ll turn around, yoooooou’ll see, these things are cyclical…”

    OK, agreed. Not cyclical, at least in terms of a few generations. An interpolation of the data (level of “lefty-ness insanity” over time) would show a rising straight line toward lefty-ness since, oh, maybe Wilson or so. Some points on the graph represent outrageous lefty-ness. Other points might show a retreat from the insanity. But the general trend is left I’m afraid. At least till it all collapses in some future revolution (sadly). I, for one, welcome our future robot overlords.

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    • June 20, 2019, at 5:01 AM PDT
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