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On this week’s first COMMENTARY podcast, Abe Greenwald and John Podhoretz say yes and Noah Rothman says no. Noah makes a valiant effort at being sensible but I’m not sure he prevails over my and Abe’s hysteria. Give a listen.
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The better parallel to the Alexandria shooting vis a vis rhetoric is McVeigh, who was definitely politically motivated and whose actions were blamed on the miasmas and penumbras emanated by Rush Limbaugh.
Here’s where the comparison would break down: McVeigh was reacting to lives actually taken due to atrocious behavior by the government — it didn’t take the mediation of talk radio for McVeigh to see Ruby Ridge and Waco as events meriting retaliation.
On the other hand, any lives lost from Trump’s agenda (Paris withdrawal, Obamacare repeal) are likely to be hypothetical both now and in the future, so it DOES take overheated rhetoric to elevate the events to something meriting retaliation.
So what’s “irresponsible speech”? Telling the Stasi where the Jews are hiding makes the teller directly responsible for their deaths; smearing your political opponents as “practically Hitler” is incitement only if you know ahead of time that violent people stand ready to eliminate any target you identify.
Maddow, Sanders, et al. did not know that the shooter was fixin’ to go out in a blaze of glory. Should they have known that such a man existed? Well?
I don’t know.
For me, an example of irresponsible speech, is speech that identifies and incentives violence.
Like a dude “I’ll pay you $50g to kill my wife” – for example. Or a preacher “Those people are our enemies – there is a special place in heaven for those who kill them!” (pick whatever religion you think works for that quote)
To me, both examples above are “Murder by Proxy” a real crime – people do real time when they commit it – and yet one example will be prosecuted 100% of the time, and the other is never prosecuted.
I really enjoyed this one, because I go back and forth myself on whether or not to be hysterical. I had two thoughts about some of the things discussed: