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Wrong. You guys just tipped your hand.
We will soon come to realize that your faction. The Democrat appeasing fraudulent “conservatives” are the biggest losers.,The worst possible outcome just happened for the Nevers.
See you in hell.
No.
Be a Man! A man stands up for himself when he’s been wronged. You can’t expect a loser of a contest to be a good sport, when he’s been treated completely unsporting for the duration, and then cheated. President Trump should challenge it to the ends of the earth to get justice.
A fraudulent election can be nullified. 14 amendment, article 2.
I know we’ve had the benefit of mostly-predictable elections in our lifetimes, with 2000 being a notable exception.
But until votes are certified, Trump is within his rights to fight, and there are a lot of people urging him to.
A couple of months remain before inauguration day. We need to get there from here, but some will need more time.
To rip him and them for not jumping eagerly on the Biden bandwagon is unseemly. Knock it off.
So we have 4 out of 4 comments that are holding to the “Election was Fraudulent and Stolen” narrative (complete with the “and if you disagree then YOU are the enemy” implication). This is really not a good sign for the future of the movement. I feel like my side has truly walked through the looking glass.
I question whether these people know what a “man” is. Really I do. They actually mean a compliant ‘gentleman’ that their mommies told them how to be, and daddy went along…of course.
What really annoys me is that now we hear about Biden and Schumer inflicting hard left policies on us, whereas before the election all we got from these guys and Jonah was what a moderate Biden was and how he wouldn’t have the political capital to do any of it. Well Democrats don’t care. The hard left controls the money and the Party and they will have their way come hell or high water. This is why I ended up voting for Trump.
So enjoy your critical race sessions coming to a workplace near you.
But Trump has no one but Trump to blame for his loss. I, for one, have accepted that Biden has won and will now direct my energy towards keeping the Senate. That is what is important now.
You mischaracterize my comment. I don’t believe it was fraudulent and stolen; I said the votes aren’t yet certified.
Of course. Who cares what commenters say? Not these people. They don’t care what 71 million voters say either. They are arrogant elitists ( somewhat redundant I know)
AND They can’t see obvious fraud. Or don’t care? Who ARE these people!!!!?
I mainly love that Biden is going to unify us with:
“The battle to achieve racial justice and root out systemic racism in this country.
The battle to save the climate.”
Hmm, race based income and wealth redistribution (and more quotas), and shutting down fossil usage so we can all have brown outs like California…
Well I guess he doesn’t need me in order to unify the country – because those issues are not going to win me over.
I’m okay with him shutting down fracking in Pennsylvania and any other state that voted for him, as long as he leaves it alone in the states that didn’t.
Let them have the policies they voted for.
I listened to the entire podcast and I was struck by two things:
1. JPod and the rest seriously mischaracterize Trump supporters as being obsessed with Trump. I am a Trump supporter, I rarely hear Trump’s voice, I am not on social media so I see almost none of Trump tweets unless it is on an internet article I am reading. So, this notion of Trump exhaustion is total projection. Liberals are exhausted by Trump, JPod and the Commentary crew are exhausted by Trump. I am not. I am a well informed citizen who is that way precisely because I avoid social media.
2. The voter fraud issue. I believe there was voter fraud, specific targeted voter fraud in just the right states to win Biden the electoral college. I am open to being proven wrong and that is why the investigations are so important to us because the evidence for people like me and others does not add up.
And that is why this appeal from JPod is literally devoid of reason, its an emotional appeal to ‘man up.’ People who believe there is a strong probability of voter fraud have specific pieces of evidence (millions of unsolicited ballots prior to the election, confirmed software ‘glitches,’ dead people voting, being disallowed to see the count in real time) while JPod just says ‘man up.’
And clearly he disbelieves the notion that one can genuinely and sincerely believe there was voter fraud. For JPod and the Commentary crew there are two positions to this; (1) Biden won the election and (2) hysterical deniers of this fact.
@icarus213
It’s a week after the election, maybe allow people to blow off some steam? No?
I think that you are both wrong at this point.
Franco, we’re generally on the same side, but I do not think that we have seen “obvious fraud” that changed this election outcome. There are legitimate concerns, and it looks like the President’s team is addressing it. We should wait and see.
Icarus, I think that you mischaracterized at least 3 out of the first 4 comments.
I find it difficult to understand either side here. Some folks are acting as if fraud has been proven, when we’re still in the early stages of the investigation. Others are acting as if the election result is clear, which it is not.
How about: “We don’t yet know who won, and it will probably be at least a month before this is sorted out.”
Wow. I once earned a Code of Conduct warning for calling a certain group of people Chuckleheads but I never consigned them to eternal damnation.Touchy, touchy.
Pod in pure “If Trump surrenders, they won’t come after the rest of us” mode
I got bad news for people who voted for “tone”
Although allow me to state: I don’t want Republicans going to the mattresses until there’s proof.
On the other side: you’re telling me there not a machine in one-party cities that might do such a thing? In Philadelphia?
My apologies! I did misunderstand you.
Very well, I guess I didn’t consider that this is what it is – blowing off steam. I do believe, though, that the “stolen” narrative will persist among a lot of conservatives for a long time. I hope fewer than I expect, and I hope for a short time than I expect. It’s really going to cripple us going forward if we convince ourselves that we *really* won all along.
Jeff, look at the 2016 Philadelphia County results, then look at the 2020 Philadelphia County results (with 98.2% reporting, as of today). You’ll see Hillary actually did better than Biden did – Biden has won 570,000 votes out of Phillie, and Clinton won 584,000. So there isn’t a huge dump of mysterious votes in Phillie compared to last election – Trump actually did 3 points better in the city than last time!
Biden’s win came mainly from the suburbs, where he outperformed Clinton. There aren’t these huge machine-run cities churning out fake votes for Biden when you compare the results this year to last time. You’d have to say the suburbs is where all the fraud happened, and that’s a harder case to accept, in my opinion.
The Commentary podcast is often rather reasonable about non-Trump topics and certain America First-type issues, but they never miss a chance to read the mood of the conservative grassroots.
True conservatives wish to shine a light upon the big city voting corruption while there is a chance to do this. Even former Never Trumper John Yoo, from Philadelphia, mentions the corruption.
Big city America is never going to get cleaned up if all of their election results are fake too.
Why be so naive about votes?
Perhaps the amount of corruption is very big or very small, but we need to find out while we have a chance with a fighter like Donald Trump leading the party.
From what I remember the Benford’s law corruption was apparently spotted in the areas of Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, and Chicago. Good be made up info. I don’t know.
Besides your theory doesn’t matter if there was corruption both times or multiple times.
The first time I heard about this sort of thing in Philadelphia was during the 2012 Mitt Romney election and perhaps the 2008 election too. I think there were some places in Philadelphia that voted 100% for Obama which is an almost impossible event along with a Black Panthers intimidation squad.
Aw cute. You all supported him, and now you’re going to pretend to criticize him. You want to have it both ways. Why should we let you off the hook?
He’s your guy. Should Biden become President (and he’s not yet, you understand), everything bad that happens — it’s on you. Own it.
The most recent Federalist podcast says that there has essentially been voter fraud in Philadelphia for over 100 years!
I am moving ahead under the assumption that the (D) used massive voter fraud, primarily through the unsolicited mail-in ballot, and the Trump lawsuits will not effect the current result as it stands now and Joe Biden will be President.
However, I do want the Lawsuits, the DOJ investigation, any US Senate or State investigations because as I stated above, I believe Trump was defeated because the (D) cheated on a massive scale and I want to know just how accurate my belief actually is. I am open to being wrong, or not as right as I thought, but I do not accept the (D)/MSM/NT bend over grab your ankles “be a man” and just take it, move along nothing to see here folks, version of events.
If it is proven there was, more than likely, massive voter fraud on the (D) side, then hopefully public outrage will move States to improve internal controls in the voting system to make it more difficult to commit voter fraud. But at a minimum the unsolicited mail in ballot must be eliminated and there must be stricter internal controls implemented for the traditional absentee ballot.
If nothing is done, the only plausible solution is for the (R) to start mirroring the (D) “vote gathering tactics”.