COVID-19 and the Black Lives Matter protests have turned race and racism into hot topics in both the United States and China. Throughout the pandemic, President Trump has been condemned as a racist for labeling the coronavirus “Kung Flu,” “China virus,” and “Wuhan virus.”

Meanwhile, protestors and rioters throughout the country—from New York to Minneapolis to Portland—have been violently assailing America as one big racist enterprise for the past two plus months. China has eagerly fanned this narrative to deflect criticisms of its human rights abuses.

Our latest episode features four first-generation Chinese Americans who personify the American Dream. They share views that do not fit into commonly preferred narratives of identity politics and political correctness.

In particular, the guests reject the mentality of victimhood and the accusation that Trump is a racist, while condemning real racism as manifested in policies such as racial quotas and preferences. Further, they offer a resounding defense of America as a country that is not racist.


Zhenya LI came to the United States as a graduate student and obtained her PhD in biochemistry. She is actively involved in local politics in Montgomery County, MD, including in opposing sanctuary policies for illegal immigrants.

Cheng TU came to the States to attend graduate school at University of Maryland. He is a small business owner residing in Rockville, Maryland.

George SHEN is a technology executive, strategic thinker and published author on Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning, big data, and other topics. Currently, he is an associate partner with IBM.

Linda YANG is a small business owner in Washington State and founder of Washington Asians for Equality. Last year, she was the co-chair of the Let the People Vote—Reject Referendum 88 campaign, which defeated the attempt to reinstitute racial quotas and preferences in Washington.

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  1. OkieSailor Member

    There are of course some racists in these United States but the policies of our various governments are only racist in terms of how those who are melanin challenged are discriminated against. The problem is that race-hustlers who use false accusations coupled with historical racism to shake down both businesses and taxpayers. Folks like Jesse Jackson, for instance, have been not only tolerated but celebrated for their misdeeds. This could stop if we decided to simply acknowledge the reality that institutional racism is a thing of the past in America, unlike much of the world past and present. That would not only result in better race relations but would mean some really bad actors would need to get real jobs.

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