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  1. Profile photo of RightinChicago Inactive

    Hey EJHill… Did you photoshop young Howie Mandel, with a wig, on the far right, or is that a real person?

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    • February 8, 2013 at 2:11 am
  2. Profile photo of EJHill Member

    No Howie… It’s just the 70s were a *cough* wonderful time…

    • #2
    • February 8, 2013 at 3:05 am
  3. Profile photo of kylez Member

    i didn’t get that romney joke from the Al Smith dinner. what does Obama have to watch out for?

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    • February 8, 2013 at 3:16 am
  4. Profile photo of Belt Member

    If you insist on calling it GLoP, I won’t object. But how about something like ‘GoLoPo’ – at least that has a hint of romance about it…

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    • February 8, 2013 at 3:38 am
  5. Profile photo of jeffp Member

    Why wouldn’t the winning business model for CNN be to aim to revive Crossfire but infuse it with the tone of NPR? (Okay, a notch less effete.) Recruit the strongest commentators available, conservative and liberal alike, and put them in vigorous but civil conversation with each other. Sell the network as the place you go for healthy, open debate where the facts decide; the honest broker that lets strong advocates for both sides have their say but where conversations don’t routinely descend into shouting matches. You’d cede the people who just tune in to see their side victorious to Fox (where the conservative Globetrotters nightly score points against Fox’s liberal Washington Generals) and MSNBC (where panels of liberals declare all conservatives insane racists night after night). But you’d capture an audience of people who enjoy vigorous, substantive, civil debate. If anyone at CNN sees the promise in this, you can contact me through Ricochet. 🙂

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    • February 8, 2013 at 4:51 am
  6. Profile photo of Mr Tall Member

    Great episode — the more you three can get down into the sea changes that drive the ephemeral waves on the beach, the more this podcast gains an identity as something special. 

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    • February 8, 2013 at 6:28 am
  7. Profile photo of CitizenOfTheRepublic Member

    No one….noooooo one can use more words to say less than JPod.

    Jonah is brilliant, as always.

    • #7
    • February 8, 2013 at 6:35 am
  8. Profile photo of Wylee Coyote Member

    What happened to calling it “Two and a Half Mensches”? I always loved that.

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    • February 8, 2013 at 6:37 am
  9. Profile photo of Owl of Minerva Member

    I enjoyed this last bit you guys did on conservative media. It seems lots of folks who want “conservative” programming really do want what you called “agitprop,” or movies proclaiming from on high the principles of conservatism. I’m a bit of squish like Rob, and what I would like to see are movies (if we have to stick with one format) that speak to deeper questions of life from a conservative perspective.

    The most famous example recently was the Christopher Nolan Dark Knight series on confronting radical evil after conventional legal measure fail. The Lord of the Rings trilogy did a great job bringing ideas of personal sacrifice and the glamor of evil to the forefront. Seth Rogen likes to joke that Judd Apatow (40 Year Old Virgin, Knocked Up) makes right-wing movies with left-wing comedy. On TV, Downton Abbey is not the old BBC class war of the corrupt upstairs and virtuous, hardworking downstairs. Plenty of conservative-leaning popular novels and histories do well.

    Only by the measure that doctrinaire conservatism (whatever that is) does not appear to be directly translated to film and stays in the top 5 for months does conservatism appear to fail.

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    • February 8, 2013 at 7:44 am
  10. Profile photo of Mr Tall Member

    Here’s my theory on why ‘conservative’ movies and other cultural productions so often don’t work.

    The left controls such vast swathes of the public square that they can afford to be cavalier with their ‘agitprop’: a seemingly throwaway line in a movie; a ‘very special episode’ of a sitcom that causes no great cultural stir, but many kids watch and remember; newscast after newscast about news that might be pro-conservative or that would hurt the liberal cause that simply never air . . . .

    So when conservatives try to counteract this great creeping swamp of liberal bias, they feel too much urgency: this movie can’t just have one line that makes our point — we’ve got to lay out our whole vision! Otherwise people might miss it! This is our one chance this year . . . . and so ‘agitprop’ is born.

    In sum, conservatives often overstate (not always — but often) because they feel the urgency of having so much catching up to do.

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    • February 8, 2013 at 8:08 am
  11. Profile photo of Sean Inactive
    Belt: If you insist on calling it GLoP, I won’t object. But how about something like ‘GoLoPo’ – at least that has a hint of romance about it… · 16 hours ago

    I still like GoldPoLo

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    • February 8, 2013 at 8:31 am
  12. Profile photo of Commodore BTC Member

    Mr Tall is right, the left is able to insert their ideology casually into the culture, which is far more effective.

    As Breitbart would say, this has made liberalism the default position. If you’ve never thought about the issues, you default to the left. You have to be intellectually curious and contrarian to be conservative.

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    • February 8, 2013 at 8:33 am
  13. Profile photo of Commodore BTC Member

    The flaw in Podhoretz’s “don’t push people out” argument is the only politicians capable of persuading voters to vote GOP are conservative.

    Romney couldn’t make the argument, while Paul/Cruz/Rubio/Ryan/Walker/Jindal/Reagan can.

    The problem with Lugar wasn’t his voting record per se, it was that he actively undermined our side’s arguments and was annointed by the media to represent our side (as all RINOs are).

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    • February 8, 2013 at 9:37 am
  14. Profile photo of EJHill Member

    OK… if everybody on Ricochet sends me 15¢ every month…

    • #14
    • February 8, 2013 at 9:39 am
  15. Profile photo of Rob Long Founder
    Mr Tall: Here’s my theory on why ‘conservative’ movies and other cultural productions so often don’t work.

    The left controls such vast swathes of the public square that they can afford to be cavalier with their ‘agitprop’: a seemingly throwaway line in a movie; a ‘very special episode’ of a sitcom that causes no great cultural stir, but many kids watch and remember; newscast after newscast about news that might be pro-conservative or that would hurt the liberal cause that simply never air . . . .

    So when conservatives try to counteract this great creeping swamp of liberal bias, they feel too much urgency: this movie can’t just have one line that makes our point — we’ve got to lay out our whole vision! Otherwise people might miss it! This is our one chance this year . . . . and so ‘agitprop’ is born.

    In sum, conservatives often overstate (not always — but often) because they feel the urgency of having so much catching up to do. · 14 hours ago

    Edited 14 hours ago

    I think this is exactly it. It reminds me of what Erick Erickson said on our podcast Wednesday: we need to relearn how to laugh and mock the left. 

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    • February 8, 2013 at 10:22 am
  16. Profile photo of Duane Oyen Member
    Sean
    Belt: If you insist on calling it GLoP, I won’t object. But how about something like ‘GoLoPo’ – at least that has a hint of romance about it… · 16 hours ago

    I still like GoldPoLo · 1 hour ago

    Knock it off! Stop ruining my favorite Glop name! Glop glop glop it shall ever be!

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    • February 8, 2013 at 10:23 am
  17. Profile photo of Frederick Key Inactive
    Blue Yeti: Frederick, 

    I see the episode in iTunes (see below). Not sure why you’re not. Perhaps try unsubscribing and then re-subscribing? · 17 minutes ago

    Frederick Key: Still looking for this to come up in iTunes. Has Apple been snowed out? · 4 minutes ago
    Edited 14 minutes ago

    Thanks, Yeti — it comes up if you subscribe, but if you’re just looking at the files available, “Trillion Dollar Coins” is still the most recent one listed.

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    • February 9, 2013 at 1:48 am
  18. Profile photo of EJHill Member
    Blue Yeti: Don’t think so. We were using that name internally for weeks before the show launched (and Rob hated it then too) .
    Dishing backstage secrets!
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    • February 9, 2013 at 1:53 am
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    Anonymous

    It often takes Apple a few days to update that page. We have no control over that, unfortunately. 

    Frederick Key
    Blue Yeti: Frederick, 

    I see the episode in iTunes (see below). Not sure why you’re not. Perhaps try unsubscribing and then re-subscribing? · 17 minutes ago

    Frederick Key: Still looking for this to come up in iTunes. Has Apple been snowed out? · 4 minutes ago

    Edited 14 minutes ago

    Thanks, Yeti — it comes up if you subscribe, but if you’re just looking at the files available, “Trillion Dollar Coins” is still the most recent one listed. · 29 minutes ago

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    • February 9, 2013 at 2:19 am
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    Anonymous

    That is awesome. I wish I could share the chain of emails that go on between myself, Senik, Epstein, and Yoo to schedule the next show and discussing potential topics. They are legendary. 

    EJHill
    Blue Yeti: Don’t think so. We were using that name internally for weeks before the show launched (and Rob hated it then too) .
    Dishing backstage secrets! · 26 minutes ago
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    • February 9, 2013 at 2:24 am
  21. Profile photo of Frederick Key Inactive

    More evidence that the rumors of Apple hitting hard times may be true!

    Blue Yeti: It often takes Apple a few days to update that page. We have no control over that, unfortunately. 
    Frederick Key
    Blue Yeti: Frederick, 

    I see the episode in iTunes (see below). Not sure why you’re not. Perhaps try unsubscribing and then re-subscribing? · 17 minutes ago

    Frederick Key: Still looking for this to come up in iTunes. Has Apple been snowed out? · 4 minutes ago

    Edited 14 minutes ago

    Thanks, Yeti — it comes up if you subscribe, but if you’re just looking at the files available, “Trillion Dollar Coins” is still the most recent one listed. · 29 minutes ago

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    • February 9, 2013 at 4:13 am
  22. Profile photo of Indaba Member

    Ningrin, brilliant choice – Ben. He is smart and able to articulate the cultural thinking of the right in a charming manner.

    The left use women talking heads very well. I know Debbie Wassername Schultz upsets male conservatives and, OK, women too. But I like that a woman is on TV doing the tough work. I watch her, mainly to get work wardrobe ideas….I know, so female of me but if I am doing that, so are millions of working women.

    The right needs to start throwing an avalanche of females back and make sure they have interesting outfits, necklaces and hairstyles. Put Vogue out of business. You think I joke? Go for that female brain.

    So the Ricochet podcast females should be getting hired. i do like Jennifer Rubin who would talk down any leftie. i like her pushiness and domination of the conversation which the male Ricochet can not stand. Emily would also be a top choice for me. Her podcasts with Ben are my favs, along with Mona who is a brave writer. Her podcasts with Jay are elegant and refined. Thanks, Ricochet. I have discovered all of these talents and their online material.

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    • February 9, 2013 at 6:59 am
  23. Profile photo of Commodore BTC Member

    Rob, you asked who on our side a network should hire.

    What about Ben Domenech?

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    • February 9, 2013 at 8:46 am
  24. Profile photo of Mr. Dart Coolidge

    Jonah talks about community. His observations are, as usual, accurate and thoughtful. If my experience over the past seven days is any indication the conservative community in my solidly Republican area was interested in the murder of Chris Kyle and his friend more than anything else early this week. By far. 

    Try finding many mentions of that horrible event on the main feed at Ricochet. Mollie referred to Ron Paul’s noxious tweet about it but I couldn’t find any discussion of it elsewhere. (I could have missed it but I scrolled through the whole week’s entries.) It also didn’t get a mention in the flagship podcast or this one.

    My point isn’t to be critical of Ricochet or the contributors. I’m just following up on Jonah’s observation. Conservative thought in NY/DC/LA/SF some times isn’t even aware of what is top-of-mind outside of those urban areas. Aside from Chief Kyle’s murder the second biggest issue among my friends this week was the difficulty in buying ammo and the fact that the DHS is stockpiling huge amounts for some reason. This one was discussed on the member feed.

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    • February 9, 2013 at 10:37 am
  25. Profile photo of Frederick Key Inactive

    Still looking for this to come up in iTunes. Has Apple been snowed out?

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    • February 9, 2013 at 12:35 pm
  26. Profile photo of EJHill Member
    Duane Oyen …Glop glop glop it shall ever be!  

    I have a confession to make. GLoP is my fault. I think that’s what I named the first photoshop file for this podcast.

    Rob hates the name but so far hasn’t sent in any suggestions on a reworked title.

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    • February 9, 2013 at 12:42 pm
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    Anonymous

    Frederick, 

    I see the episode in iTunes (see below). Not sure why you’re not. Perhaps try unsubscribing and then re-subscribing?

    Frederick Key: Still looking for this to come up in iTunes. Has Apple been snowed out? · 4 minutes ago
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    • February 9, 2013 at 12:44 pm
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    Anonymous

    Don’t think so. We were using that name internally for weeks before the show launched (and Rob hated it then too) . 

    EJHill
    Duane Oyen …Glop glop glop it shall ever be!  

    I have a confession to make. GLoP ismyfault. I think that’s what I named the first photoshop file for this podcast.

    Rob hates the name but so far hasn’t sent in any suggestions on a reworked title. · 5 minutes ago

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    • February 9, 2013 at 12:52 pm
  29. Profile photo of Nick Stuart Thatcher

    Netflix is awesome. I have two streaming-only (no DVDs) subscriptions.

    • #29
    • February 10, 2013 at 4:53 am
  30. Profile photo of Daniel Jeyn Inactive

    Love this podcast. Boy, I wish more Ricochetti would ponder some of the thoughts within, particularly during the latter half…

    • #30
    • February 10, 2013 at 9:56 am
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