It was recently leaked to Politico that the Supreme Court had drafted a decision to overturn Roe V. Wade. Aside from the leak itself shocking the nation, people are eagerly waiting to see what the actual decision will be and the long-term political effect it will have on the courts. In today’s episode, Byron discusses the issue and the anger it has caused for both political parties.

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  1. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    This just upset the entire dynamic of the election. The left have now nationalized this election. While they’ll still loose the house – the senate will remain a log jam.

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  2. RufusRJones Member
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    Everybody needs to listen to that.

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  3. Architectus Coolidge
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    This just upset the entire dynamic of the election. The left have now nationalized this election. While they’ll still loose the house – the senate will remain a log jam.

    The ruling was still due to come out before the election, so nothing changes but the timing.  And the Left will ALWAYS overreact and mischaracterize any action, so no change there either.  In fact, maybe this gives time for the new reality to set in, dampening a more virulent reaction right on the cusp of the election. 

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  4. Architectus Coolidge
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    One note, Lord Byron: sometimes word choice might be seen as unimportant, but in this case I think that words matter a great deal in shaping perceptions of electoral fairness, when people loosely talk about “winning the popular vote”.  That is not actually a contest that takes place, so cannot be won.  I will reprise an old (lightly edited) post of mine:

    Hilary and Al did not win the popular vote…because no one actually “wins” the popular vote in a US presidential election. You can’t win, because it is not a contest or race. The popular vote tally is merely another data point among thousands which are used to analyze an election. In the case of the popular vote tally, it is referenced for the most part due to its simplistic character. We can just as easily chart which candidate “won” the most counties or square miles of territory. I won’t restate the ample current and historical reasons for the US to retain the venerable institution of the Electoral College (others have done a wonderful job at that here), or dwell on the fact that the popular vote count is nearly meaningless because the race itself was not run with that metric as a goal (and having that as a goal would have greatly altered the candidate’s and party’s approaches), but I offer a resolution:

    Resolved: We, the members of Ricochet, will cease to use or endorse the words “won” or “lost”, in all their variants, in reference to a presidential popular vote count, now and forever, and at all times will diligently but politely seek to correct others who do so, whether in speech or print, for the good of the republic.

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  5. RufusRJones Member
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    If you used the popular vote, they would only campaign in 25 urban areas. 

    You would be colonizing the rest of the country.

     

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  6. Taras Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    If you used the popular vote, they would only campaign in 25 urban areas.

    You would be colonizing the rest of the country.

     

    Donald Trump himself has said that, if we did determine the Presidency by “popular vote”, he would have run a very different race.

    He was bemused by the fact that Hillary Clinton spent money in Texas (which was out of reach) and California (which was a lock).

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  7. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Architectus (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    This just upset the entire dynamic of the election. The left have now nationalized this election. While they’ll still loose the house – the senate will remain a log jam.

    The ruling was still due to come out before the election, so nothing changes but the timing. And the Left will ALWAYS overreact and mischaracterize any action, so no change there either. In fact, maybe this gives time for the new reality to set in, dampening a more virulent reaction right on the cusp of the election.

    Yes, I have said this before – but it was only a theoretical thought before because I didnt know how the ruling was going to go.

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