In this episode, Ayaan talks with Michael Shellenberger about climate change, nuclear energy, and climate apocalypse. Michael shares with Ayaan how the general public can approach climate change issues with common sense.

Michael Shellenberger is the founder and president of Environmental Progress and is the author of Apocalypse Never.

He has been working as a climate activist for 20 years and an environmentalist for 30. He was Time magazine’s “Hero of the Environment” in 2008 and is an invited expert reviewer for the next Assessment Report for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Follow him on Twitter @ShellenbergerMD.

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