Will a president of the United States ever be impeached? Was the term “high crimes and misdemeanors” clarified? Did one branch of government emerge stronger than others? What does the future hold for the FBI, FISA Court, and Special Counsels? John Yoo, a Hoover Institution fellow and UC-Berkeley law professor, discusses the legal fallout from the Trump impeachment saga.

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  1. Stina Member

    The courts emerged stronger than the others. Not the president.

    Let congress pass laws that can be evenly applied no matter who is in office. Not this amorphous abuse of power that can be hand waved away the next time a president does it.

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    • February 7, 2020, at 9:47 PM PST
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  2. Max Ledoux Admin

    It’s disappointing that Bill and John completely misrepresented what Dershowitz said. Nothing they said on the matter was relevant because they started with a straw man. Dershowitz did not say, as Bill falsely claimed, that a president can do anything he wants if he thinks it is in the national interest. This is simply false. Dershowitz said that if a president does something that is legal, that he has the power to do, that he believes is in the national interest, then that can not be impeachable just because it might also be electorally beneficial to him. Therefore John’s comparison to Watergate is absurd. That was an illegal action, a burglary. John’s statement therefore was an irrelevant straw man. Sad. 

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    • February 8, 2020, at 7:36 AM PST
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  3. Cow Girl Thatcher

    Emoluments clause..Hmmm. So, a person who has not spent his life as an elected official–basically sucking at the government teat as a career–gets elected to the office of president. As a result, the person doesn’t need the salary of the elected office, because this person has already worked in the business world successfully, and has no need for the government salary. Now, people who have not become independently wealthy through their work outside of elected government offices are complaining that this newly elected person is violating this emoluments clause because his existing business interests are still earning money for him??

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    • February 8, 2020, at 11:22 AM PST
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  4. Dr.Guido Member

    @maxLedoux I do believe you’re correct.They owe you the courtesy of correcting them so politely.

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    • February 8, 2020, at 2:51 PM PST
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  5. DudleyDoright49 Coolidge

    High praise for Robert Mueller as the best federal prosecutor. Do not forget that he has sent a number of people to prison who did not deserve to be imprisoned. Read License to lie by Sidney Powell. 

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    • February 9, 2020, at 8:09 PM PST
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  6. RufusRJones Member

    DudleyDoright49 (View Comment):

    High praise for Robert Mueller as the best federal prosecutor. Do not forget that he has sent a number of people to prison who did not deserve to be imprisoned. Read License to lie by Sidney Powell.

    I have heard Harvey’s Silvergate and Howie Carr talk about this. It’s really bad.

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    • February 10, 2020, at 12:13 AM PST
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  7. milkchaser Member
    milkchaser Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Clinton’s perjury and obstruction of justice was not impeachable?
    But Trump’s legitimate and legal act was “close to the line”?

    On what planet, John?

    So it’s now legitimate what the person’s alleged state of mind is? I did not realize that mind-reading was a particular Senatorial skill.

    It’s not. They cannot know state of mind. The Democrats alleged that Trump’s motives were wrong. That is highly debatable, to say the least.

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    • February 11, 2020, at 10:20 PM PST
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  8. MISTER BITCOIN Member

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    It’s disappointing that Bill and John completely misrepresented what Dershowitz said. Nothing they said on the matter was relevant because they started with a straw man. Dershowitz did not say, as Bill falsely claimed, that a president can do anything he wants if he thinks it is in the national interest. This is simply false. Dershowitz said that if a president does something that is legal, that he has the power to do, that he believes is in the national interest, then that can not be impeachable just because it might also be electorally beneficial to him. Therefore John’s comparison to Watergate is absurd. That was an illegal action, a burglary. John’s statement therefore was an irrelevant straw man. Sad.

    in watergate Nixon was impeached for covering up not the actual burglary? 

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    • February 14, 2020, at 7:42 PM PST
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  9. MISTER BITCOIN Member

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    It’s disappointing that Bill and John completely misrepresented what Dershowitz said. Nothing they said on the matter was relevant because they started with a straw man. Dershowitz did not say, as Bill falsely claimed, that a president can do anything he wants if he thinks it is in the national interest. This is simply false. Dershowitz said that if a president does something that is legal, that he has the power to do, that he believes is in the national interest, then that can not be impeachable just because it might also be electorally beneficial to him. Therefore John’s comparison to Watergate is absurd. That was an illegal action, a burglary. John’s statement therefore was an irrelevant straw man. Sad.

    I think John was referring to the tapes and executive privilege. 

    Remember Nixon was not impeached for burglary – it was the cover up not the burglary itself.

     

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    • February 28, 2020, at 2:54 AM PST
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  10. MISTER BITCOIN Member

    DudleyDoright49 (View Comment):

    High praise for Robert Mueller as the best federal prosecutor. Do not forget that he has sent a number of people to prison who did not deserve to be imprisoned. Read License to lie by Sidney Powell.

    also deflate gate

     

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    • February 28, 2020, at 2:54 AM PST
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  11. MISTER BITCOIN Member

    milkchaser (View Comment):

    Clinton’s perjury and obstruction of justice was not impeachable?
    But Trump’s legitimate and legal act was “close to the line”?

    On what planet, John?

    So it’s now legitimate what the person’s alleged state of mind is? I did not realize that mind-reading was a particular Senatorial skill.

    It’s not. They cannot know state of mind. The Democrats alleged that Trump’s motives were wrong. That is highly debatable, to say the least.

     

    John was very clear that whatever Trump did was not a high crime or misdemeanor.

     

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    • February 28, 2020, at 2:56 AM PST
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  12. Taras Coolidge

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    It’s disappointing that Bill and John completely misrepresented what Dershowitz said. Nothing they said on the matter was relevant because they started with a straw man. Dershowitz did not say, as Bill falsely claimed, that a president can do anything he wants if he thinks it is in the national interest. This is simply false. Dershowitz said that if a president does something that is legal, that he has the power to do, that he believes is in the national interest, then that can not be impeachable just because it might also be electorally beneficial to him. Therefore John’s comparison to Watergate is absurd. That was an illegal action, a burglary. John’s statement therefore was an irrelevant straw man. Sad.

    I think John was referring to the tapes and executive privilege.

    Remember Nixon was not impeached for burglary – it was the cover up not the burglary itself.

     

    Covering up a felony is, of course, a felony.

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    • February 28, 2020, at 7:05 AM PST
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